It is not a Night Elf zone, the only 2 similarities with Nelf aesthetics is the color palette and the fact that it has trees.
I wonder why they allways ignore when I bring up Shadowmoon Valley.
Since that shares exactly the color pattern and theme. But of course this can’t be a NE zone since it is on teh Orc homeworld.
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Its not just me other players have called it out as well in the thread to be rather generic. Once again you also blow what i said out of proportion i never associated forests with night elfs thats an assumption you made. I associated this zone in particular with night elf zones because the colors and theme of it is stereotypical for warcraft standards concerning druids. Want to see a druid zone that doesnt feel night elfish go to mulgore feel very in tune with nature.
So? Shadowmoon <valley was also purplish nigh themed.
The last NE druid Zone was no even purple, it was green (Val Sharah)
Sorry but tthat doesn’t make any sense.
The last purple NE zone that was added to the game was Ashenvale… it was added in Classic. Since then no other NE zone beside Val Sharah has been added and this one wass not even purple…
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Personally I find Shadowmoon Valley incredibly easy to forget because horde don’t go questing there in WoD. It was practically alliance-exclusive.
So?
It was themed after the Shadowmoon Orc clan … so orcs.
Does it mean every purple forest is now Orc associated?
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Since you want me to bring up shadowmoon valley i will. Shadowmoon valley was designed to be an alliance zone which i disagree with as well they should have designed it based on what was draenor not because the alliance needed some familiarity. We were exploring a new world. However i don’t have an issue with shadowmoon valley is because horde adventurers dont go there ardenweld is different story you do adventure there so the zone should not feel like a alliance zone it should feel like a netural zone where both horde and alliance players go and can feel like they belong there and not shoe horned into one faction story.
Your being incredibly insufferable right now and arent provding anything to refute OP claims. Beside this “blank” zone is purple so does that mean its a a “blank” race zone.
What? …
Ok I think you have a serious problem with your horde/alliance pereception and everything that could be associated with anything the alliance has is bad.
Sorry I just don’t get it, can’t understand the brain gymnastics you do to fit your narrative here.
It is purple so it is NE … got it.
Rather a simple view on things but guess i can’t convince you.
People have allready pointed out that Ardenweald has no, not the slightest connection to NEs beside that Shadnris and Ysera happen to be there. That is all.
Trolls even have an entire subzone in there dedicated to them.
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To be fair, there’s also going to be a massive injection of actual night elves as the questline progresses, too. 
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That is the claim.
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Yes and you havent counter his claim beyond insulting him and his perception. I am a night elf main and even i thought at first ardenweld was exclusively a night elf zone. When looking at it So his perception isn’t stupid for thinking that. You are being childish and have provided nothing to refute it. Also going to not mention that how forcily tyrande is pushed into the ardenweld story being the mwah savior of it all.
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There is that as well and people going argue this zone wasn’t meant to cater to night elfs players.
The zone should’ve been
3 trees for temperate climate (forests as it is, one tree in a lake)
3 trees for tropical climate (palm trees, jungle, one tree as a swamp)
3 trees for dry climate (desert, savanna/plateau, one tree as an oasis/beach)
The zone is derived from “magical western European nocturnal fairy forest” motifs
Night Elves and Ashenvale and Teldrassil are also derived from that motif
It is using the same core motif that is causing people to say “this is a night elf zone”, as well as Ysera being part of the Court of Night since Leveling Storyline while Huln and Voljin and Bwon are only introduced during the Covenant Campaign Storyline
The same way Maldraxxus is centered on Tomb Kings/Penny Dreadful/Horror motifs same as the Plaguelands and the Forsaken Intro Storyline, and how we start with Draka and only get Alexandros at the end of the Leveling Campaign.
The issue is the timing of introduction of the NPCs and the lack of ecological diversity in the universal interdimensional animal afterlife zone
“but it’s based on fairies”
There are fairy myths in jungles and deserts today because of European colonialism. I grew up with fairies living in the jungle, due to a lack of deciduous forests in the immediate area.
In fact Ardenweald is the least “diverse”/nuanced zone of all the zones, I would argue.
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The fae forest aesthetics are fun though and I really dont think this is the case with every expansion. Legion had Val’Sharah for sure but in BC and Wrath I wouldn’t say there was a distinct Nelf zone. BFA didn’t really have one either unless you count Darkshore. Cata had something for pretty much everyone. MoP I don’t remember having a Nelf zone and I really haven’t dug into WoD content but I don’t recall seeing anything distinctly Kaldorei.
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I would rather if there were no trees but more of a various pillars that contain different dome, and the pillars are connected in some perfectly shaped balance and in the very center there should be the Guardain, I’d love if the guardian would have two pairs of arms, animal legs and had very ominous presence.
The perfect balance could remind of the teachings about nirvana, and the eastern mythos could be incorporated. Maybe instead of silly unicorns we could have these creatures?
They’re very scary guardians of afterlife in egyptian culture :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammit
Imagine it being the additional guardians to the afterlife.
It would truly provide otherwordly feel becuase we haven’t seen such a bizzare creature before.
And this is why I am so angry at Faireland. It is such a wasted opportiunity to truly add something new and fun!
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Too “out there”
Having an ecological afterlife is cool, the execution was just trash. One biome for all animals? Wack. The hell is a Kraken or shark wild god gonna do in Ardenweald?
There’s forreal not even a particularly deep lake in Ardenweald, it doesn’t make sense
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The Shadowlands are told to be infinite. We have infinite realms but we only Visit 5 of them … would be a bit much to build infinite amount of zones for one expansion…
Ardenweald is the fairy zone… then there might be a kraken zone, or a shark zone… a light zone or Elunes playground … we just don’t visit them.
iT doesn’t mean there is none.
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Thats just a poor strawman arguement. The zones should feel much more lively regardless of how infinite they are. And i like how you don’t respond to the claims of tyrande being shoehorned in ardenweld or how generic and bland ardenweld is. But mwah ThE ShAdOWlaNDS are INFINITE that doesn’t mean there is no kraken zone. Except when this zone is designed for all animals,wildlife,and all things in tune with nature in general. Man the winter queen wasnt considering desert creatures or insects oopsie daisies.
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maybe because I don’t see it this way?
Like I have allreay posted: I like Aredenweald.
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