Fishing daily, cooking daily, pvp daily, with the summer event you get an additional 3 dailies, spirit tower in Terrokar is another is easy daily. This should get you more than 50 g. There’s also heroic and normal dungeon dailies.
Both dual spec and reducing the cost of respeccing are unnecessary.
It’s clear that all the valid defenses against adding dual spec are simply being shouted in to a void because every time they try to steelman the argument from our side, all they can muster is “no changes went out the window already!”.
These people aren’t listening, they aren’t reading or retaining any new information. They want dual spec, and they care nothing of the cost of adding it, or the players who it hurts to add it.
It’s a pure diary of selfishness.
Meanwhile, dual spec is not currently in the game, we went all of classic vanilla without it when you could argue dual spec would be “useful” for the same exact reasons, and Blizzard hasn’t mentioned it once. It seems apparent that people should start learning to accept that they won’t get it.
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I agree that dual spec shouldn’t be added. However there are many valid arguments for reducing the respec cost, 50g to switch and then 50g to switch back is too steep, most of the people playing the game aren’t farming constantly or don’t have the time to play to spend time farming gold so they can respec just to spend more time doing what they wanted to do originally… it quite literally does nothing but suffocate participation and encourages people not to play… while at the same time rewarding those who buy gold.
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No.
I played on a private server once that basically was aimed at being “Blizz-like” in every facet but one: they changed the respec cost to 5g.
What this led to was everyone requiring the perfect optimal spec for every activity “because it’s only 5g”.
It completely eliminated preference talent choices or utility decisions in specs.
I’m sorry, but I did not like the way the game felt with the option for a (even cheaper) low cost respec.
So no.
Keep it 50g, the way it actually was, in this game that I’m literally paying $15 a month to be as close to how it actually was.
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Idk what game you’ve been playing but 99% of the time your optimal spec is required, and if it isn’t currently than you are likely in an environment where that isn’t likely to change regardless of respec costs.
Also I’m sorry but there are actually same faction BG’s, I know you said don’t bring up slippery slope stuff but come on, this amalgamation is far from saving.
Also how does reducing the respec cost eliminate preference or utility choices in specs?
Imagine coming to classic TBC and think you wouldn’t need to farm lol
Btw, you don’t need 230300 gold, and it doesn’t take 2 hours. Go farm Eclipsion Point for 30 minutes and you’ll have 50g
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Maybe not for warlocks, I’ve never played lock, but plenty of classes have “flex” points in their talent trees. Especially in regards to hybrid classes, where you can still technically have all the points you need to be “optimal” with a few choices left over that are left to preference. These become inconsequential with a low respec cost.
I want group comp to both benefit and be hampered based on specs of the players available, and if a Respec is opted in order to fill a certain group benefit, it should need to be seriously considered whether the player should respec to provide that value. The legitimate 50g value seems to be enough that this purpose is being achieved, because as you can see we have a few people whinging about adding dual spec, so the design intent seems to be achieved.
The only difference here is these people believe that if they whine enough, it will actually get added, and I don’t fault them for feeling that bit of hope given Blizzards current track record, but that doesn’t mean I won’t fight against it’s addition.
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That’s not how it works though, no one is going to say hey I need you to respec those pointless preference talents so we can kill X, the situation you are describing is a fantasy.
The raid scenario that actually plays out is, oh billy is ret and he needs to be healing… currently in most situations billy would just throw healing gear on and become an off healer… but would that actually change based on respec cost being reduced? We still need to waste everybody’s time so billy can go back to SW and respec and then summon him back… most of the people respecing for encounters aren’t even doing it with their own gold anyway.
It’s a non issue, people won’t be able to respec at the boss, they are still wasting raid time with respecs. The only thing 100g respecs do is reduce the amount of people playing the game.
Put it this way:
I’m paying $15 a month for as close a representation of how TBC was back then as possible.
If I don’t argue against them adding a feature that didn’t exist in TBC, how can I justify the claim that I care about how I’m spending my money?
All I’m doing is making sure that I get exactly what I intended to pay for, and what was advertised. Simple.
If you add dual spec, transmog, whatever the hell other retail BS, you immediately make it so I’ve been scammed. Where I paid for something expecting one thing, and was given a totally different thing. Blizzard is obligated to honor what many of us are already paying and have paid $15 a month for: as close to authentic TBC as possible.
End of story.
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You can’t make the argument that respec costs don’t matter in literally the same breath you argue they make people not play the game.
It truly illuminates the underlying motive here when people do that.
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This is like saying that since the building has cracks in the foundation, let’s just add more cracks cause there are already some there. Each additional crack could be the one that caused the building to collapse.
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All respec costs do currently is promote raid logging and reward those who buy gold.
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Loot boxes for winning BGs, same factions battlegrounds, boosts to level 58, adjustments to abilities, items that aren’t supposed to be in the game that are (meta gem with crit damage %), adjustments to professions… bro there’s more than cracks the building has already collapsed.
Lmao, raid logging is not a result of respec costs.
I know plenty of people who respec on the regular just fine, as is. Gold is easy to make so this isn’t a problem.
Raid logging is a result of this being TBC. It is an inherently raid-loggy expansion because the initial farm for crafted pieces and pre-raid bis is long over.
You are trying to solve a problem with a solution that has no influence on said problem.
People who want to respec to do other activities on non-raid nights already do so. People who don’t care enough simply don’t. People will still raid log if they added dual spec, because the players raid logging now do so out of lack of desire or anything else to do, not a respec cost.
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Cause 50g max is so much that a person is forced to buy gold right? Do you even remember consumable prices in vanilla classic?
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That’s not collapse IMO. Collapse would be things like LFD, tokens, raid finder, ect.
It’s 50g there and 50g back. I’m not saying it forces people to buy gold, I’m saying it makes people not want to PvP, while rewarding the people who buy gold into not having to spend time farming for their respecs.
Let’s just ignore the fact that this completely inaccurate tbc amalgamation started with half the players wearing full T3 with 20k gold from gdkp runs from the classic amalgamation we all came from. Gold that was bought and then distributed to other players for selling loot to gold buyers.
duel spec is not needed you can change specs now just cost gold. people that want duel spec wants it for free.
a reason we don’t need DS. lets say they add it…
people that never tanked. will swap (most likely don’t have 1 piece of tanking gear) but hay i can tank with 2 swords and wear plate. this leads to more people abandoning dungeon runs. (it happens now but will increase 10 fold). healers will leave and have to wait for next… so a 10 min run turns into 30-40 min run. same log applys for DS healers… i got this heal spell i am healer, tank leaves cause it died 2 times. then everyone blames the tank anyways cause they wipe… now the good tanks that have played tank and can do it well have the same problems and increases shortage of tanks because people always blame the tank. how this toxic retail beta test is already.
like all you change everything say “it has no effect”…
they said this with boost and HVH that was added. “it has no effect at all”
well the 75-80% of people that has unsubbed since these closer to retail changes has started. That a handful of people wanted. I think is a effect these added changes has to the game.
i say add DS why not only around 20% of classic vanilla player left. because they are not getting the game they supposed to be paying for. kill the game another 10% or so… WotLK will look like a waist of time why? because tbcc has no player base now.
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Promote, not a result of…
By your argument repair costs are ruining the game, preventing pvp and pve. Why should there be a gold sink, why should there be currency?! Your concept of claiming one thing should be free for you and another not doesnt align. You are trying to mask the simple fact that you want free crap and will continue to want one thing after another, your complaining will never cease.
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