somebody doesn’t know how spell resists work…
I wanna see the max on arcane surge. Berserking, PI, AP, 4 stack AB and on use SP trinket against a warrior in zerker stance.
Not gonna lie, as a mage, these nerf arcane surge posts popping up suddenly don’t even bother me. It’s a trash spell, hardly 1 shots nearly as much as people claim, needs the assistance of another 3 minute cooldown. Give it to the hunter treatment for all I care.
Just weird that ya’ll are not mentioning that that mage is nearly a free kill in current pvp state.
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Bakashi, It sounds wild but I guess that is what I’m saying. I read the numbers directly in-game. He/she hit me for that, from 100-0, OR there is a bug with Soul Link and the 30% dmg reduction did not register to reduce the damage on me. The Mage truly owned me and made me feel like I’m not even worthy enough to be logged in, so I logged lol.
Hooah, here here! I don’t understand why Mage’s would even care to have it. It’s a make it or bust type ability that Mages could do without. You guys wouldn’t mind that tweak, with love in other areas. Arcane Surge seems “off” and hardly makes sense.
Never has been. Its balanced around group battles, but to be able to delete someone every 2 mins is overpowered and anyone defending it is being obtuse and obstinate.
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everybody is “nearly a free kill”. welcome to the 1 shot meta 
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So a mage beat you in a 1v1, and youre mad? Res, and go find that mage again. Camp him for the next 3 minutes. I promise you, that you will end up the winner.
They don’t even appear on my radar of balance concerns. They’re just a meme that sometimes do something wacky.
It’s not being obstinate it’s just that there’s so much else I actually care about I just find that you should be using your energy whining about real problems with balance.
Regardless of the version of WoW you play. You will not be happy if ANY class gains an ability where they press it and the enemy instantly dies. In fact, I forget the name of the item, but it is known that an item was left in a player bag by mistake by dev that insta killed anything in range. That ability to press a button and insta kill anything was looked at as a dev item, used to do broken things and was used to do broken things, like world firsts. Now, in SoD phase 2, we have a Mage, who has that ability for one target at a time. Now, I know I’m blowing it out of portion because it needs to crit, plus be pumped by other spells or abilities. The fact still remains that it is bad design to give a button that instantly kills a player to any class. Make it do MASSIVE damage. However, I was a Warlock stacking stam, with 30% damage reduction and Felhunter out for school resists.
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Well, see, many people, unlike you, can walk and chew bubblegum at the same time.
Its funny to me to see a literal one shot ability being defended. Its even funnier when the defense is: There are other problems so ignore this one.
Any one shot in the game is a non-starter.
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Like, Big Blue Dress is hilarious. Just because you ended up in the HD version of the one-shot montage doesn’t mean you’ve lost your warriors pride. Wacky Mage One Shots are part of the flavor of vanilla WoW’s PvP which is largely fun and uncompetitive and largely just a goofy grind.
If you take Vanilla PvP too seriously you’re memeing. It can be competitive in some sense but it’s not arena.
That’s your opinion. My opinion is that it fits the spirit of the original game.
i found your problem. I could kill you with a single Chaos bolt too.
Double trinket POM Pyro was nerfed in Vanilla WoW to prevent one shots. Keep that in mind.
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Arcane Surge is clearly different than anything in the past, since Vanilla 2004. It is true there were combos and one shots, but those were terms. In reality, each one had some way of countering it. You always heard a sound, sound an effect, viewed a sequence, felt or knew what was about to happen. This gave you, if skilled or trained, an ability to mount a defense. The tooltip of Arcane Surge says it all. The spell is trying to instantly one shot you with zero pre-sound or travel time. This means it’s the first spell or ability in the game that can instantly kill any class/spec aside from maybe tanks. Ya it needs to crit, but it’s tasteless and takes the spirit out of the scene when it goes off.
Edit: Lastarria really? Then why can’t any other class or spec one shot me or has ever one shot me? How come I can take Chaos Bolts to the face all day long focusing on a fear kick?
HAHAHAHAHAH TIME TO PUT FUEL ON THE FIRE IN THIS THREAD.
I’m only spreading this around so ziqo gets nerfed and can’t win the $20k tournament:
4k arcane surge crit. I can hit 5k+, but this was without full power. NERF ZIQO!!! LOOOOOOOL!!! CYA BUDDY NO FREE $20K FOR U HAHAHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH!!! JUST WAIT FOR THE FORUMS TO BE ASTROTURFED GIGA HARD WITH NERF MAGE POSTS!!! UR TIME HAS COME BUDDY!!!
https://imgur.com/a/E5lTzSF
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Thanks for receipts, most people seem to not know yet, but it’s coming.
This was with Arcane Power, Berserking, and your AB Buff rofl. This was absolutely full power, and wouldnt only happen in a BG, not world PvP.
Pretty Arcane Surge will not one shot you without ramping. It relies on PoM + Arcane Blast to ramp up the damage.
Edit: eww including zerker buff, lol.
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Wrong. I can 1shot anyone in the video game whenever I want every 2 minutes. I’m not even full bis yet, still missing 100 spellpower. No berserking screenshot below. No other buffs, just natural self arcane mage buffs.
Screenshot doesnt include the 1500 damage arcane blast 1 second before. Also it can actually do 10% more damage than what I’ve posted, im just running burnout instead of enlightenment.
https://imgur.com/a/yHd9M9H
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