To be fair, right now the most challenging bosses are heroic, and they die within or very near after the surge window. So that 900k ST is more burst than sustained numbers.
Nobody complained about difficulty of the spec lmao, so letâs not talk about IQ when the wooden spoon is talking. You canât even parse basic arguments.
Nobody is buying your farting around about doing consistent 800k between pulls, maybe if that group of yours runs afflocks instead of fury/ww/ele/ret/dk.
Not a single person in this thread, who have their own set of eyes and experience, is sucking up whatever that e-thug wannabe persona of yours is fumigating this thread with. Get over it.
Funny how youâre not addressing the facts that were just laid out. Gotta love logs man. Proof is in the pudding cupcake and the facts show youâre just bad. Personally, I really donât care what you believe. I have no reason to lie and nothing to gain from doing so.
Arcane SF needed to be nerfed because it was too strong in both AoE and ST. Youre not agreeing with that because youâre not competent enough to play the spec well enough to put up those numbers. Again youâre one of the worst players I have ever seen so that makes sense. Come talk to me when you get good child.
Also itâs 2024. Quit speaking for other people and assuming they have the same opinions as you. It doesnât validate your opinion it just makes you look weak and unintelligent.
Iâm no thug. Im just better than you. Hey. Thats okay boo boo. Go sleep.
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As a WW main, I approve. DONâT TOUCH ARCANE.
If anything, nerf frost a little. Idc if itâs frost mage or frost dk, but donât touch arcane. This is the most fun Iâve had on arcane since SL, and itâs great that it leaves frost and fire in the dust. Donât ruin a good thing.
It does basically no aoe damage. Read the ability again, reduced damage beyond 1 target. It is basically never more than 5-10% of your damage regardless if its ST or AoE
It has a 20 second burst window with 50% increased damage (15% evo/35% surge). After that we have no more CDs, magi will come up again in 45 secs(very small cd), and we can slightly reduce the cd of evo, magi and surge with shift. We have a filler rotation for both aoe and single target for over a minute and the highest burst damage in the game for 20 seconds. Every heroic boss dies in 20-25 seconds. Just go to a training dummy and see the real numbers. Last thing, what AoE? Explain what amazing aoe you are talking about lmao. Might be the worst in the game, glad you are having fun in heroics using surge on trash that died 5 seconds later, and even then it was prob 1-2 mil.
Youâre that annoying child with a cracking voice talking trash in some fps match, so instead Iâm gonna add you to the mute list until youâve had some semblance of puberty to maybe develop a bit of self awareness. Youâve been quoted by several people who I donât need to speak for.
Have fun acting like you matter with them until they get bored with you as well.
I can sustain 1.3 mil pretty much forever (stopped at 500 mil dmg) on the 5t cleave dummies in dornogal. Idk feels pretty good as sunfury, fishing for GI instead of the usual boring explosion/abarr filler. I assume if sunfury players arenât seeing results itâs because they arenât ablasting enough in aoe
just tested the same thing before the servers went down and got the same dps: 1.3 mil. That is abysmal for a perfect scenario (5 targets is our max damage, dummies tightly stacked and not moving). Also this is with lust which is more unrealistic for trash. AND STILL its trash aoe dps compared to most other classes right now.
I didnât use lust but I did have a cheap flask on, but if you feel like thatâs abysmal I wonât argue there,
Yeah I guess that hasnât been my experience so far, including 3-5 keys on beta. I havenât done 5t dummy comparisons with a frost dk or something I just really donât feel like âtrash aoeâ is the right description for it. But hey I wouldnât complain if they had left it as-is either
Logs baby. Logs. None of the words you say have any weight now. Also, youâre the one who attacked my integrity first for like no reason. So I decided to engage with you in kind.
Get over yourself, how can you even have such a huge ego? You attacked my skill level⌠I proved you wrong. What really gets me is that you had the audacity to attack my skill level for stuff that you have never even done? Youâre ranked so low on the list youâre practically invisible.
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As Iâve said before I donât use Surge on mobs⌠ever. The AoE rotation doesnât differ that much from the ST rotation other than using Abarr more often (When you have NP+1) and BoP. Iâm just following Poroms guide on Wowhead.
Also, it was just figured out that the recent change to BoP is only like a 3.6% DPS loss overall for SF⌠the spec is still like 10% ahead of every other class. Why are we complaining? More nerfs are incoming get ready to REEE then.
Get âem boo
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Iâm not going to get into it with the people on this thread who have enormous egos that seem easily bruised. What I will say is that in my limited experience, I am destroying people on ST (when thereâs no stop dps mechanic) and my aoe is meh. But there are classes like the aforementioned WW who are just laughably ahead on aoe and donât require the set up that arcane does.
The TLDR is with mythic+ not out yet, there isnât a reason to be nerfing anything. But Blizz is going to be Blizz.