Arcane Intellect Nerf

[Kiekö-laughing-skull (Kiekö)]

Am I reading this correctly? Why?

https://www.mmo-champion.com/content/12573-World-of-Warcraft-Hotfixes-August-19-2024?page=1#comments

What prompted this?

[Arkinov-bleeding-hollow]

It’s fine.

[Aloriath-proudmoore]

It does put it in line with the druid versatility buff or the shaman mastery buff. I’m sure it was done for balancing purposes since this will affect every caster/healer character once in dungeons and raids.

[Ravenfell-azralon (Ravenfell)]

@Aloriath-proudmoore

It does put it in line with the druid versatility buff or the shaman mastery buff.

Nope, 3% Versatility is superior. It’s 3% extra damage and healing plus 1.5% damager reduction that is useful to everyone equally, contrary to Arcane Intellect that only affects casters.

I feel like this was just another Augmentation tax since the extra intellect for Augmentation translates into extra stats for everybody else.

[Aloriath-proudmoore]

@Ravenfell-azralon

Augmentation

No swearing on the World of Warcraft forums. I don’t have any love of that grotesquery of a “support damage” spec.

[Kiekö-laughing-skull (Kiekö)]

@Ravenfell-azralon

I feel like this was just another Augmentation tax since the extra intellect for Augmentation translates into extra stats for everybody else.

That could also be it, but I read it was because of Chaos Brand. So, they nerfed that AND intellect.

Just seems… silly. Another reason why I hate Mythic+

First, it came for my AoE Arcane Torrent Silence. Now this? /cry

[Pesa-zangarmarsh]

@Ravenfell-azralon

I feel like this was just another Augmentation tax since the extra intellect for Augmentation translates into extra stats for everybody else.

I’m not super concerned with this change though I think it could have been done in a much better way (bring the MoP scrolls to retail so that M+ gets all the buffs) but I think this is accurate.

Augmentation seems to make balancing incredibly difficult

Conversely if we had worthwhile scrolls then we could bring the player and not the class in M+ content. For example when drums were 25%, you would still want to use true lust in a raid, but you could bring your friend instead of finding a luster.

Of course now with 15% drums you can still bring your friend, but if they don’t have lust that’s a bit of social friction. Guaranteed some fledgling friendships have died because of it and this game is seriously struggling with maintaining social connections

[Nazgu-thrall (Nazgu)]

@Pesa-zangarmarsh

Conversely if we had worthwhile scrolls then we could bring the player and not the class in M+ content. For example when drums were 25%, you would still want to use true lust in a raid, but you could bring your friend instead of finding a luster.

Striping the buff would be better then having us to get scrolls.

The problem is that blizard never took utility in equation while balancing DPS. A class can hapen to bring the highest utility in game while being top damage dealer.

[Omélette-hyjal]

Crazy how this could be fixed by making warrior and monk bring the same amount of utility as mage and demon hunter, since the same buffs exist for melee.