How is that wrong? The Clans are subject to the Warchief and they’ve been so since “Rise of the Horde.” There’s an ENTIRE CHAPTER in “Rise of the Horde” dedicated to the Clan Chiefs picking a Warchief so that they can have actual coordinated leadership during their war against the Draenei. Subsequent chapters literally show Durotan struggling with the new political reality as he now has no way to resist Warchief Blackhand.
This structural reality is later reiterated in things like the Blood Oath of the Horde.
Did you seriously try to snipe at my post deconstructing all of your factually incorrect information with this only to faceplant this hard?
The Or doesn’t matter because in this case they were not elected. And the exercised directly has nothing to do with democracy. That is not what the Horde is. It is still a mixture of tribes and monarchies.
Again, as I have said, Warchiefs are only needed in times of war, and since the end of SL, as per the lore in game, we, the horde, are at peace with the alliance
The Horde abolished the position of Warchief after Sylvanas. It remained in effect until then. What are you talking about? This is some of the most laughable, ridiculous headcanon I have ever seen.
“Actually when the Horde wasn’t at war, power was dissolved back to the Clans. This happened before, and we know it because the Horde has a completely different thing in the form of a council, now.”
Alleria was exiled by the current government of Silvermoon. I’m saying there’s no way that government would let Arator live there. Arathor is a dead kingdom, though, and the same way the Forsaken have a claim to Lordaeron, some Forsaken also have a claim to Arathor.
It’s like that because for some reason Blizz had Lor’themar invite Helves back after MoP. Everyone had to make peace even after the purge. It was dumb. So now they have this loophole to have an expac that’s stationed in Silvermoon still be about the Alliance.
In the 7 years since I returned to WoW I have consistently tried to get some Idea of what it is about high elves that gets people so hot and bothered and the only thing I’ve gotten from them was that they really like human culture. That’s it. That’s all I’ve ever heard anyone say about them.
Christ, the three most famous high elves are a trio of sisters who are all archers and all fell in love with a dude who was an author’s self insert.
The only race that is more bereft of substance are troggs who are literally just fail dwarves.
Yay, more belf identity being gutted and ruined if so. I sure do love how blizzard constantly craps over belf lore/story to appease alliance babies. I also love how the horde in its entirety is basically a full on afterthought.
I love this no faction, no race, no class identity version of WoW. Why did we listen to whiny babies and give too much to the alliance in the first place.
This is Blizzard, the same one that gave the alliance playable demon eredar, dark rangers(don’t care if its for belfs too, it should have been belf only), and gave velfs a bunch of my races customization just to further remove identity or any distinguishing factors of both races.
The only thing they are consistent at, is fully disrespecting lore identity just to appease undeserved whiners. Faction and race choices don’t matter anymore(bad thing). Classes are about to follow the same route other than the inescapable meta slaving that everyone will be forced to deal with eventually.
I mean… I’m not going to pretend that the alliance hasn’t gotten a luxurious multi-expansion reacharound, but the proposal of the OP is frankly deranged and overlooks a plethora of factors including how Arator is half human.
Posts like OPs are only made because Blizzard disrespects their foundations and lore in such extreme ways that I honestly can’t even put it into words myself.
Except no. The reps on the Horde Council are the individuals either hand picked by the separate established racial leaders or are those racial leaders themselves. All of which attained their position by being:
Titled nobility in established non-democratic family based monarchies/hand picked titled nobility under a larger monarchic empire - Blood Elves, Nightborne, Zandalari Trolls,
Bloodline based clan/tribal leaders also not selected democratically - Frostwolf Orcs, Plains Tauren, Highmountain Tauren, Jungle Trolls, Mag’har and other Draenor Orcs
A pure wealth based oligarchy - Goblins
Quasi-theocrasy based on ranking in martial skill and spiritual development - Houjin Pandaren
Even the Forsaken governmental structure was a quasi-monarchy as Sylvanas was High Elven nobility and titled herself the Banshee Queen. And the Desolate Council membership is composed of a member of the literal royal family who ruled Lordaeron and titled former aristocrats/religious aristocracy of Lordaeron.
This is virtually identical to the Alliance leading council make up, as they are a collection of:
Bloodline based clan/tribal leaders also not selected democratically - Wildhammer Dwarves
Theocrasies - Draenei, Night Elves & Void Elves (who also came from a monarchic culture as they are just Void worshipping Blood Elves)
Quasi-theocrasy based on ranking in martial skill and spiritual development - Tushui Pandaren
Even the Earthen have a pretty strict caste system as opposed to an actual democratic style of governing.
And the Dracthyr would effectively be an Military Aristocracy since the leaders (the Scalecommanders) were hand picked and groomed from their hatching to be leaders by Deathwing
The various unplayable allied groups for both sides all fall into one of the previously mentioned governmental brackets.
The Gnomes are literally the only actual democracy on either side. And even then Gelbin styles himself as “King” Mekkatorque. And considering he now also leads the Mechagnomes who were following an actual monarchic structure, that self-styling fantasy has become an actual reality at this point.