So its cannon that the first 100 human magi were Arathi, and after the Magocracy grew too large and wanted independence some of them ran off the create Dalaran.
So the question remains how powerful do you all think the Arathi Magi are? Dalaran and Silvermoon have both be destroyed, so one could easly assume that includes a good chunk of magical documentation we’ll never see again. But Arathi?
I’m curious to ya’ll thoughts here.
Because I’mma break as much as I can on this toon 
Got a problem with it? Go report me to the Kirin Tor, oh wait.
It depends, their capital might be on one of those very neato leylines they keep talking about in the story and might have it’s own version of the Sunwell/Nightwell/etc. We will have to see just how powerful they are in upcoming content.
I would love to see a Sacred “Flamewell” in future content.
Are we referring to Arathi that went to Hallowfall or those who did not? Because as far as we know only one mage survived with the Arathi that went to Hallowfall and now he is dead.
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The ones back, where ever they came from. The poor lad in Khaz Algar, getting shanked like that. He was just trying to get everyone home.
As powerful as they need to be in a given scene, just like everyone else.
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Calls down a giant fire tornado on all of the Amani Trolls
This tracks.
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Yup. That’s a thing that happened in the past. Just as a bunch of reanimated corpses destroying Dalaran was a thing that also happened in the past. Makes you wonder the Kirin Tor didn’t call down another firestorm. They’d already evacuated the city and local environs.
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It might depend on what we mean by “powerful”. They probably lacked a lot of the skills magi have today, but became extremely well versed in the magics they did learn.
That fact that 100 were chosen has a lot of implications. Because it was a limited number, it was probably the case that these 100 people were not just special because of the magic they obtained, but because of who they were. It could have been that these 100 were chosen by merit or latent talent, either way, they were likely exceptional individuals.
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I mean Magi seem to usually become arrogant in some way or another, all of the elves at one point, multiple people in Dalaran and even see it in the Kirin Tor with Antonidus and the Guardians.
So how bad would it be for the Arathi? If they were the start of the human side of magic.
I just wanna be arrogant af lol
This is partially because the old canon had arcane corrupt the user to become cold and aloof. There are still some NPCs that make reference to this (’ Remember (class), all magic corrupts!'), but it’s not really something they go into specifics on.
As for Arathi Magi, they have an interesting potential, but I don’t think the First Hundred Magi have anything to do with it. After all, there is over a thousand years between the Troll Wars and Arathi splintering off.
What they have going for them is:
- Their mixed racial heritage between human and elven, as well as a very well established intermingling of the two cultures.
- No Kirin Tor, as in, potentially not sharing the Kirin Tor’s strict sense of magical ethics. We know that historically the Kirin Tor has had a vested interest in keeping magic it deems dangerous out of peoples hands. Dalaran being the main hub for magical learning (outside of Silvermoon) means most magic we (outside of maybe the elves or draenei) is seen through that lens.
It will be interesting to see what the empire practices, what they’ve developed on their own since the split and what they might have missed. Hell, we might see applications of magic completely counter to what we know of them… or maybe they can’t even master slowfall, who knows?
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Ima run into a Kirin Tor trying to police me and be like “No, we created you peasant.”
I really just bring up the one hundred as a means to say they’ve been doing it longer (for the Human side), so therefor logically should have had more time to become corrupted. Increasing the chances that it would of happened.
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From the in-game lore books they clearly have some very advanced magical theory, likely on par with Dalaran when it comes to academic stuff. And there’s a distinction between ‘true mages’ and conjurers, ergo those capable of casting a spell or two but not able to delve into the more complex things, because we do see some of those in Hallowfall.
So in terms of academia, which all magical study is rooted in, they’re probably pretty honed, and likely have powerful mages. The distinction, however, will be how much the Empire has encountered in terms of threats, because a lot of their wars seem to have been against other humans or putting down rebellions, not fighting the same things we’ve been.
They know about demons, but have they fought off a full on Legion invasion? Have they done it twice? They know about necromancy but they haven’t fought against the Scourge, they know about the Void but haven’t fought minions of the Black Empire.
For mages there’s natural power, sure, but knowledge is the equalizer, and the old world mages have dealt with way more in the last four decades. Jaina was naturally talented, but she wouldn’t be nearly as powerful if she hadn’t been personally trained by Antonidas and Aegwynn, nor encountered all the stuff she has. Khadgar wasn’t anything overly special in his original debut, but because he’s encountered even more crazy magic than Jaina, he’s on par with her, maybe even stronger.
Of course plot will do what plot does, but if the Empire becomes an enemy, logically speaking a Nexus War veteran mage is going to fold an Imperial mage like paper, and that’s just the humans. Sacred Flame help the first Arathi Empire mage who has to fight a warlock, that would just be the Confused Screaming meme on loop.
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The lore of the Tirisguarde and the first Guardian Alodi. Came from Arathi, atleast partially with Meryl in the Tirisguarde.
So we know they have battled demons atleast secretly.
I can’t necessary say definitely there were more though, as I can’t find any more info on that.
But I think it’s enough to say that they’ve atleast known about demons. And I’d love to rationalize that the Quel’dorei would have warned them about them while teaching them as far as Demons.
And we know they’ve encountered the Black Empire because that’s how Thoradin died. With one of his magi cousins when they went to Tyr’s Tomb and the General that killed Tyr (can’t remember his name) woke up. But it’s how the Arms Warrior got their weapon in Legion. Now I think one could argue if word got out about them after that or not.
But Thoradin was such a warrior, not to mention the first emperor so why wouldn’t they look into how he died?
We don’t know when exactly they split, is the issue. They definitely split before Alodi, Alodi was born in Dalaran and the Arathi left before the original empire had split. Meryl was one of the Hundred but prolonged his lifespan with magic and some NotNecromancy. As far as Old Gods are concerned, Thoradin didn’t really tell anyone where he was going, he just had this sense of some dire threat in the north, on the frontier of the empire, and in his old age decided to deal with it before he died.
And it killed him and his fancy NotExcalibur sword was lost.
They do know about this stuff, for sure, the in-game texts mention demons and of course due to prophecy they know the Void. But knowing and fighting are big differences, and if the Storming Sea works like the mists around Pandaria did, they could have flat out never encountered a full on Legion invasion.
An unanswered question is how much of this would be considered verifiable historical fact by the Arathi, and how much would be dismissed as legend.
When Faerin learns Anduin is the friend of a dragon, she’s shocked to learn that they actually exist and aren’t just legends. She even asks if its true that they grant wishes. Dragons absolutely would’ve been something the High Elves would’ve known about, and yet to the Arathi, they’re myth and legend.
By the same token, to the best of my knowledge, the Arathi have nothing at all to say about Trolls entering their settlements. This, DESPITE the Troll Wars being crucial to their very existence.
While some lack of Arathi reactions to the Old World can be dismissed as the Devs not thinking about it, we do have evidence that other information we consider to be historical fact, are dismissed as children’s tales to the Arathi.
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The in-game book in Hallowfall mentions demons, Old Gods, and even the Firelands in an academic sense, Palawltar’s Codex of Dimensional Structure is the name of it. So they know of the existence of all these different planes and such, they just likely haven’t encountered them to the same extent as the Old World.
My guess is if we go to the Empire, we’ll see they have some sort of massive Arcane university or something and we’ll find all sorts of creatures there being interrogated or studied in a less than nice fashion, regardless of their nature.
In terms of dragons I’m almost positive they know dragons exist but are exceptionally rare, from Faerin’s dialogue my guess is that the only true dragon they’ve encountered is the Green that tried to fly across the Storming Sea, and likely couldn’t get back home even through the Dream. Faerin mentions dragons granting wishes, and the Green Flight is the only Flight capable of that, albeit via dream manipulation.
So that would explain them knowing about dragons, demons, Old Gods, etc, they’ve encountered them much more recently than trolls. Though a lot can probably be chalked up to gameplay.
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Dalaran was founded at some non-descript time “shortly” after Thoradin’s “death”, its first mage ruler was elected in 2700, 100 years after the Troll Wars was fought, it became the capital of mages shortly thereafter and the Arathi Empire wouldn’t fall until 1200.
That’s a period of 1700 years that the Arathi who left the mainland had access to Dalaran and its vast knowledge.
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