So, in Season 1, I had completed this place on 12 and timed it multiple times but this season I’m noticing a lot of complaining and back-seat tanking about how this boss is tanked and I’m coming here to see if I’m missing something or if as usual, certain pugs can only have something go ONE WAY and their inability to adapt is once again causing friction.
So, I’m trying to figure out if they’ve changed it or not b/c I can’t see where they would have and nothing in the DJ is showing they did.
I will often tank the boss during the “Eye of the Swarm” phase on WHATEVER side is easiest for me when we all fall into the circle. Often this is because I’m grabbing threat on an ad (when I’m often having to charge, jump to since I’m almost always out of range, focusing on keeping it interrupted and trying to bring it in).
I’ve had a lot of melee whine about this saying I have to do it only on one side because it’s “easier for the group,”
But WHY is this easier? Is this easier because that’s what people have decided to do and that’s the situation most people expect? or is there some other reason. Again, in S1, I tanked it wherever and as long I focused on aiming the impales out of the circle, it was fine.
What am I missing? Thanks!
The circle rotates around the boss. If you aim the frontal into the edge where the circle is going, the spikes take up a lot of the ground space in the circle and people need to avoid it, because the clear space moves into the spikes. If you put it on the rear edge, the spikes will drop into the dead zone and nobody has to try to dodge them.
not sure if i was clear–i’m AIMING impale into the dead zone to free up space…but i get a lot of groups who straight up REFUSE to adapt if its not tanked on whatever side they seem to think it needs to be and the excuses run the gamut.
One gropu claims that infests are able to be baited. If that’s the case…they can be baited on either side…so I still fail to see how this is a tanking problem
The right side is where the Tank has always lingered. It’s like floodgate where it’s always clockwise in pugs. I’ve never seen the tank not on the right side and it’d probably throw me off for the tank to be on the left.
Yes you’re suppose to tank it on the right side of the circle; The boss ability spins going to the left. By tanking on the right side; you give way more room for the rest of the group to drop infestation.
If you tank on the left; the spikes and infestation swirls basically sandwich the party; You just create more chaos just because you dont care enough for the well being of 4 other ppl. Taunting an add and stopping it’s channel isnt that hard bruh. Stop making up excuses.
so pointing the frontal into the “dead zone” HAS to happen from the right side. the safe area ALWAYS rotates clockwise. so if you as the tank are as far right as u can be when the frontal goes off, by the time the animation actually hits it takes up at most 5-10% of the usable area. What it sounds like you’re doing is pointing it in the dead zone on the left, in which case the safe zone is moving into the frontal, causing it to take up much more of the usable space.
there are multiple reasons this is bad.
obviously, there less “free” space for your group to operate within.
it requires more movement from your group, resulting in less dps, slowing the key down.
the DoT circles can are baited, SORT OF. when they start their movement, it targets a player and goes in a straight line in that direction until it reaches the end, then targets a new player and rinse repeat. the reason putting the frontal on the left is bad for these circles is because during that phase, ALL of the circles will constantly be going through the safe area, since every1 has to stand there. so when you, as the tank, are reducing the amount of usable area for your group, you’re making it way harder to avoid those dots, potentially wiping your group.
TL;DR
Yes there is a reason you tank the frontal on the right side and not the left. Can people deal with it if u do it wrong? yes. but are they justified in complaining because you as an individual are making the fight much harder and slower for the rest of your group? yes.
The debuff creates a swirlie that follows players, if you are moving from side to side, then they need to move as well, then all the swirlies end up in the middle.
are you saying the “eye of the swarm” has a movement pattern? if so, where is this in the encounter journal because honestly I’ve never noticed it.
Again, I’ve only ever worried about aiming the impales in the dead zone ON EITHER SIDE all of season 1 and never heard as much bellyaching about which side I’m on until this season.
I can do the right side from now on but I’m not noticing ANY difference in the space available for people to dps the boss during that phase — what I am noticing is that i’m a hell of a lot more likely to get hit by other players’ infests when I’m on the right side and it seems the ADD is frequently on the left and I’m usually the one interrupting and pulling it it over to the group or it just gets ignored.
So part of the reason i have stayed left is to avoid getting hit by infests and to ensure that add gets in. It’s just where I’ve ended up–not trying to make it harder for others.
BTW to the person telling me what my job is, Get West Nile, seriously–that’s the kind of attitude that makes people NOT want to tank. See the other thread about tank shortage.
I came in here asking a legit question–I dont need the snark. Take that to reddit.
I think you’re getting pushback because before this comment I’m replying to, you were given very straightforward and respectful answers then continued to respond like this in a very hostile manner, sir. You get back the energy you send out my friend.
coating sarcasm and condescension with sugary-words to mask it (poorly) is not constructive and I’m not going to stand for it.
Quit accusing people of being “hostile” when they dont let people just walk on them–that’s not how respect works. I asked a question and only 3 of you could be bothered to answer it constructively and respectfully. The others were intentionally or stupidly vague and threw in repeated jabs. Calling it out is all I did, you keyboard warriors can like and unlike stuff all of you want–at the end of the day–no one gets “hostile” if the answers stay respectful.
Either way, I think my question was answered so…not replying anymore. Feel free to get your immature “last words,” I wont be reading them