April Copeland's reponse to the new Kalimdor book

Well, none of the antisemitic stereotypes Goblins use originate from America, I don’t think. For example, the notion of an international jewish conspiracy dates back to the thirteenth century, but became much more popular with the publishing of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

Yes, I agree. I was very surprised to see this.

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So…incoming goblin characters based on “Sex and the City”? Or “Seinfeld”?

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So, thinking about Goblins being antisemitic again, it’s kind of weird how they made one of them a National Socialist reference in Uldum. Could have chosen a different race for that, or not made one at all.

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I still weep for the original version of Uldum which was supposed to have Explorer’s League vs Reliquiary fighting for titan relics as the main plot instead.

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Why have in-game race development and world building providing equity between the factions so we don’t have to keep relying on Alliance groups being Neutral when you can have memetic Fascist German Goblin vs Indiana Jones Human references that perpetuate logics of Evil Horde and have Alliance Groups being Neutral?

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I don’t. You know they’d just have made it the fun-loving, knowledge-seeking Explorer’s League versus the shady, power-hungry Reliquary.

Frankly, it was the Reliquary that soured me on the idea that “Horde counterpart” organizations can ever be separate-but-equal. They end up being separate-but-evil instead.

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I don’t know if swapping one racial charicature for another is a smart idea.

It’s bad enough the Goblins having a mafia take is cheesy enough.

The Alliance doesn’t have to deal with racial stereotypes because the Alliance is all based on one race.

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Now I love The Nanny and it would be a hoot if they had a Character like her… but have you seen the show? A good quarter of the show is jokes about being jewish.

She says stuff like : “we dont eat pork - unless it is Chinese barbequed Pork after Temple”

I dont know if Nanny Fine would reduce the Jewish stereotyping - maybe less sinister and more jokey? But I love The Nanny, and would welcome a reference to her.

Goblins being an American charicature is on point. They should lean more into that. Your wording choices are way better. “Cornering the Market” is great, like Wallstreet, it is no different than the Brokers

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I never realized how problematic a lot of media is.

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Media is loaded with unconcious biases.

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I want a Nanny Goblin for rule 34 purposes

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Stahp I’m gonna get banned :joy:

If this is what I go down for, Evelysaa, remember me.

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I shall honor your memory, my friend!

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Don’t worry, you’re too notable to forget

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YES. I love it!

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Imo having a Mafia theme race is good and fun,

Re: Jewish references, again there’s a line between References/Inspirations using internal cultural themes vs Stereotypes/Racist Tropes of those cultures.

And the line is ultimately determined by members of those cultures.

Who are familiar with those cultural themes and would know best how to subvert them in a safe and proper way.

And the same goes for any of the playable races.

Again: Zekhan being illiterate could’ve been okay if it was centered on a personal class struggle due to his dad dying, so had to leave school to make ends meet.

And overcoming that obstacle could’ve been done via Talanji helping him in his time as ambassador

Instead they did “Dumb Troll can’t read, Local Chill Thranduil teaches him literacy”

Ergo the line between Cultural Inspiration with NUANCE vs Racist Trope

Or take for example how Rachel Bloom pokes at her life as a Jewish woman in Crazy Ex Girlfriend, which has the brevity and nuance necessary for the task as she knows her own culture and the themes therein.

Blizzard needs to be honest, transparent, and self aware what and who the races are based off of and engage with writers and creatives from those communities

And not just One Person per se, nor just Those People assigned to That Race. That would be tokenizing and abusive.

A fully functional multifaceted all hands on deck team is what is needed.

But from the looks of the credits of Exploring Kalimdor, we appear to be a long way from it.

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I just wanted to inform you all (especially you Baal) that some already received their books this week. No changes made.
So yeah, that’s that.

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Weren’t the books scheduled for a certain date? Those might’ve been the ones already out.

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