No… I never said that. Try reading what I said instead of snipping a fraction of a sentence.
It isn’t laziness on the part of the player. It’s unwanted social pressure.
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Yeah, ok, but they are correct it is laziness.
Funny thing is this all brings us back to the point, They have a “Appear Offline” option but it only works PARTIALLY.
So whatever reason people want to use it for really doesn’t concern you or that pathetic objection you have. If there is to be a “Appear Offline” option make it fully functional. Fix the issue Blizz
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…which comes back to the player adding people they shouldn’t add via that particular method.
(and then somehow trying to make that Blizzards fault)
It’s Blizzards fault for implementing and half-baked option. Fix the issue and make “Appearing Offline” work in all aspects as previously stated.
not just for Bnet and Communites but also for Guild and Character added friends and any other unspecified case.
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I’m not sure I entirely understood the post, but I do think there should be more privacy options available. Maybe have a setting for guild, community (each one), and bnet. If privacy was great for bnet I’d probably use it more.
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This pretty much hits the nail on the head. Unfortunately some people think you must always think the exact same way they do re. how you choose “friends” in a computer game.
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I get this and I agree, before they had the feature I uses to have to do a work around to be offline, the only way you’re offline in wow is offline mode and playing on another server or faction.
sometimes you just want to do your own thing without having to worry about needing to turn people down for mythic+ or run something else. When you’re the kind of person who feels compelled not to disappoint your friends, you often skip over doing what you enjoy doing to make other people happy.
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@Builduhbear
You need this.
I was very Pro-AO before it was implemented (and fought many times with Nobully over it), but it was always concerning BNet itself. Sorry, but WoW is a MMORPG… The whole point is to be a consistent world. So… no… I’m not onboard with in-game AO… If you want to play WoW without being bothered by others, then make an alt and only log onto it with AO engaged.
The BNet and WoW teams are in fact different teams… They didn’t add a “half baked” option…
Because sometimes you want to do your own thing without getting asked to do keys or carry someone’s alt. I don’t mind helping guildies but being one of the high IO rogues in my guild I get asked a lot
Sometimes I just want to farm transmog or gank
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I made secret Alliance toons so i didnt have to log in on Horde and get insta-grouped the second i logged in.
Still that way now as i could not deal with having to explain myself if i bumped into a friend or w/e anyway.
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don’t add people who won’t respect your boundaries.
why is this so hard for everyone?
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Ah yes, because when someone feels like they just need a day to themselves n wow, and don’t want to be bothered 1000 times, clearly they need to just take the nuclear option, and quit their guild, and remove all their friends.
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Not everyone can be an antisocial butterfly like me, but if people were still managing to message me and ask me to do things while appearing offline, I would unfriend them.
it’s getting harder and harder to convey this notion to people who’s lives are literally online 24/7, 365 days a year.
“Me-time” is a every diminishing aspect of life today. People who FB/tweet/twitch the donut they picked up on the walk to work/school this morning seem to have trouble grasping the idea.
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ahh, and the pat response to the OP’s request. Always completely polarized.
“You don’t want top be disturbed for 30 minutes, so you obviously never want to group with anyone ever…, just /gquit and dump your friends list, blah blah blah.”
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The point here is that that’s unnecessarily complicated, and greatly limits when you can use that alt in the future.
It’s half baked because it works in some circumstances but not others.
You go Appear Offline in BNet…
For people who are friends through BNet: Works
For guild mates: Doesn’t work
For people who friend list your individual character (which you can’t control or even know about, btw): Doesn’t work
I get your point about BNet and WoW teams being different, but if you add a feature that doesn’t fully work because the two teams didn’t collaborate enough to get it there, then it’s still half baked.
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Except it does work, for BNet. The feature was never intended to work internally within WoW. Guild mates and friends lists are internal WoW features, BNet is not. Hell that was one of the big things that we pushed specifically concerning this feature. That it was ridiculous that you couldn’t get away from BNet even when playing a primarily single player game like Diablo. That no matter what… your friends list knew where you were and what you were doing and how creepy that was.
You can’t call something half baked when it’s actually working exactly as intended. What you’re now asking for is something entirely new. You’re asking for internal systems within WoW itself to be under your control, which is entirely different to BNet offline mode.
The ONLY thing I will say that is “half baked” concerning the system is the bug with “join your friends” groups, where you go offline, then jump on an alt, then sign up for a queue yet still show up to your friends in the “join your friends” list. That imo is/was a massive oversight that should be rectified (I’m not sure if it already has, so correct me here if it has).
Otherwise though, no… You’re asking for something that I fundamentally disagree with. The whole point of an MMORPG is to be interconnected and to maintain a consistent world. It’s why I’ve never been a fan of CRZ and sharding (though understand why they exist). But now giving people the power to be completely invisible in the game (aside from literally running into them)? No. Not a fan.
Edit: I also want to add a props to Nobully for calling the slippery slope at the time.