the guilt is caused by empathy. If you had no empathy, then would you even care?
why you feel empathy towards someone who is trying to manipulate you?
On one hand, I kind of feel OP’s pain and on the other hand, I don’t.
When it comes to Bnet friends: You don’t have to add or accept every person you play with. I can’t tell you how many friend requests I get as a tank or healer in higher m+ keys or heroic raid pugs where you know they are just looking for a tool to carry them. That tool is not me…
When it comes to guildmates: Sorry, you’re on your own there. You joined it and that comes with the territory.
In WoW, if you’re half decent at tank or healing, you’ll find a good majority of players, that try to befriend you, are narcissistic/sociopathic/selfish in nature. They will be buddy buddy with you and try to seem enthusiastic/interested in how you’re doing, after a couple of replies they slip in the “Hey, do you want to tank/heal this key?” If you turn them down, they will try to brush it off like it’s no big deal. You might try to chat more with them, after a bit, and they will either pretend they are AFK or just won’t get back to you until they want to ask you for help again. Do this enough times and they will magically stop talking to you.
Another fun one is to say you’re shifting from tank or healer to DPS and watch how rarely you hear from them again.
That is the majority of the people you’re going to encounter in WoW. Don’t get me wrong, there are lot of cool people out there. I’ve made dozens of great friends on here that I’ve played with for years, it’s just kind of rare.
The other super creepy factor is when you’re a female and the incels stalk you at every turn… You’re better off just ignoring them. Even if they’re in your guild.
It is a little tight. You might want to loosen it.
It is a bnet feature, not a game feature. So how is that false advertising again?
And you would know for a fact that’s what’s happening?
I sure wouldn’t. So it’s in my nature to empathize, giving the benefit of the doubt.
I’m surprised this topic’s still alive. Other games allow for an offline feature that actually displays one as being offline. Why is such an option a problem with so many players here? Sometimes people log on and just want to be left alone. I don’t see the issue.
Now This I do agree with. If you are appearing offline, bnet should not broadcast anything.
I don’t really use the ‘appear offline’ feature. What happens when it’s turned on? Friends still see that you are, in fact, playing something? Seems to defeat the purpose.
Once again, itnis a battle net feature not a game feature.
I do agree though that if I appear offline it should kot say I joined the queue for a random BG to everyone I have on bnet.
However the rest is game VS launcher. Two different entities.
Oh, that’s right. Would it be consequently difficult to make these two different programs work in sync, do you think?
Honestly I have no clue.
My horse in this race was purely that it was false advertising.
I don’t have the issue with being pestered when I want to be alone. I get asked respo d that j am just putzing around or farming or whatever, and that is that.
Guild and friends respect the response
I have never used appear offline, but I am selective of who I add as well.
That said, like I fully acknowledged, if you DO set it to appear offline it should not broadcast groups you have joined to your friends.
Would I have a problem if they fully incorporated it k tk the game to work all the way? Not at all
I’ll repeat what I said before… No. The point of an MMORPG is to maintain a consistent world. You asking to appear offline in the game world breaks that consistency. It made sense when talking specifically about BNet as that was an external system that pretty much broadcasted anything you were doing blizzard related… Across games… And we were eventually forced to use it no matter what. But inside WoW’s internal architecture? No… If you want to be “offline” then engage offline mode and make an alt.
The only bug that remains is the bug that still shows you in the “quick join” tab to your friends when you’re on that alt and queue for something. And that should be rectified bliz…
based on what others have said, this is exactly what’s happening.
people state they don’t want to have to say “no”, because it may hurt the other persons feelings.
…but what about YOUR feelings?
I dig where you’re coming from. But that’s the thing about that. Sometimes you will get taken advantage of. I still think it’s worth the risk.
But I totally would not hold it against anyone that doesn’t see it the way I do.
Or this feature can be fully fleshed out and work. I understand you don’t like that option, however.
Or… this feature, which is designed to work for BNet, was created by the BNet team and not the WoW team, and was never intended to be a feature internal to WoW already does work.
Again… props to Nobully for calling this slippery slope when I and others repeatedly asked for appear offline for BNet.
I don’t think the initial intent is being argued. I think some players would prefer it worked slightly differently presently, is all.
Slightly differently? They would like it to work on a different platform is what they’re asking. Right now it’s BNet that is what is being put into “appear offline.” They want WoW to have “appear offline.”
And that… No… I’m not a fan. The whole point of an MMORPG is to maintain a consistent world. That includes the people in that world. You’re asking for something fundamentally different from the initial request. The initial request was: I’d like to go play Diablo… and for some reason when I play this single player game… Everyone get’s to hear about it.
It was also: I’d like to go play my horde character on a completely different server that has nothing to do with my alliance character’s guild, but for some reason… everyone get’s to hear about it.
This coupled with the fact that they forced us all to use BNet instead of just opening WoW without BNet meant that BNet became a relatively intrusive app when it came to blizzard products. Hence why the BNet team added appear offline.
So no, this isn’t just a “slightly different” version that you’re asking for. You’re asking for something that completely breaks the point of an MMORPG in the first place. Which is that of a consistent world where we all interact with each other.
The initial request and how you perceive what “the whole point of an MMORPG,” are in my opinion irrelevant. I respect your opinion, though, too.
Only as irrelevant as your request for a “slightly different” feature.