Apology to the Violet Tap and the Boralus RP

I wish to formally apologize to the members of the Violet Tap guild, as well as the Boralus RP community for my actions. I disturbed the Tap weekly RP on a continued basis, and when banned I took it out on the rest of the RP community. My actions were apparently unjustified, despite my very strong feelings of the exclusion from RP in Boralus. Despite how I may have felt I went about it the completely wrong way. And for that I apologize.
Y'all really need to learn to keep this !@#$ between the parties involved.
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Given the issue was already public it's only fitting that someone try to make amends publicly.
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10/23/2018 01:54 PMPosted by Eviral
apparently unjustified


You need to learn something. Keep drama to yourself. Really. When something happens and you feel slighted the WORST thing you can possibly do is to go on a public forum where the other party can easily recognize you and come out and tell everyone their side of the story. Multiple people came forward expressing that you were in the wrong by the way.

Understand this. And the last thread you made is an excellent example of this. When drama happens, keep your mouth shut. If you feel the other party is wrong and they refuse to talk to you about it then you need to move on. You made yourself look like a fool. My advice; take a break.
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10/23/2018 01:59 PMPosted by Enrik
Y'all really need to learn to keep this !@#$ between the parties involved.

I was asked to do this when I apologized privately through a whisper. I'm trying to make things right with them.
What's apparently unjustified mean
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Thank you for your apology, Eviral.

Seeing as things have already been discussed between us, I'll be keeping this short.

You're welcome to return, however, I'd probably advise against returning on Eviral or Merdyth unless they're disguised.

Below is also the complete transaction between Eviral and I this evening.

https://imgur.com/a/z2EIEr8
10/23/2018 02:23 PMPosted by Eviral
10/23/2018 01:59 PMPosted by Enrik
Y'all really need to learn to keep this !@#$ between the parties involved.

I was asked to do this when I apologized privately through a whisper. I'm trying to make things right with them.
If they really wanted an apology they would have accepted it privately. The fact that they asked you to post it publicly just shows that they are !@#$%^-s who want you to embarrass yourself.

Move on and forget about it.
10/23/2018 02:30 PMPosted by Lyzettie
What's apparently unjustified mean

It means that they're sorry that they caught !@#$ for their behavior but don't think they were in the wrong. This is a non-apology and a cry for more attention.
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10/23/2018 02:39 PMPosted by Eirdwen
10/23/2018 02:30 PMPosted by Lyzettie
What's apparently unjustified mean

It means that they're sorry that they caught !@#$ for their behavior but don't think they were in the wrong. This is a non-apology and a cry for more attention.

No. It means that at the time of my behavior, I did not think my actions were unjustified. After some reflection I came to the conclusion that I did, in fact, step out of line.
Just because you're a nihilistic cynic doesn't mean you can insult people who are making the effort to apologize and set things straight.
10/23/2018 02:39 PMPosted by Eirdwen
It means that they're sorry that they caught !@#$ for their behavior but don't think they were in the wrong. This is a non-apology and a cry for more attention.


Cry for attention seems unfair, since they were specifically asked by the wronged party to make this public.

I don't disagree that they come across as more seeking to mend fences than genuinely contrite, but with regard to that my criticism would be that an apology can be phrased to be fully repentant even if delivered by someone who doesn't feel that way. I don't see the harm in trying to set things right.

Of course, the real test comes with showing improvement over time. If someone's going to own up to doing wrong, they need to try to do better going forward.

ETA:

10/23/2018 02:43 PMPosted by Eviral
Just because you're a nihilistic cynic doesn't mean you can insult people who are making the effort to apologize and set things straight.


And this is the kind of stuff you should probably refrain from doing if you want to rebuild your reputation, OP.
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10/23/2018 02:43 PMPosted by Eviral
10/23/2018 02:39 PMPosted by Eirdwen
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It means that they're sorry that they caught !@#$ for their behavior but don't think they were in the wrong. This is a non-apology and a cry for more attention.

No. It means that at the time of my behavior, I did not think my actions were unjustified. After some reflection I came to the conclusion that I did, in fact, step out of line.
Just because you're a nihilistic cynic doesn't mean you can insult people who are making the effort to apologize and set things straight.

If you truly felt like you were unjustified, you wouldn't have said "apparently unjustified". The simple fact is that you've pulled this sort of thing far too often for me to put much stock in this apology. I really do hope I'm wrong about you, I welcome it! Please prove me wrong, and I mean that sincerely, just... don't do this again.
I didn't mean to insult you, but I can see why you would feel insulted. I won't apologize, because I still stand by what I said.
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10/23/2018 02:51 PMPosted by Eirdwen
10/23/2018 02:43 PMPosted by Eviral
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No. It means that at the time of my behavior, I did not think my actions were unjustified. After some reflection I came to the conclusion that I did, in fact, step out of line.
Just because you're a nihilistic cynic doesn't mean you can insult people who are making the effort to apologize and set things straight.

If you truly felt like you were unjustified, you wouldn't have said "apparently unjustified". The simple fact is that you've pulled this sort of thing far too often for me to put much stock in this apology. I really do hope I'm wrong about you, I welcome it! Please prove me wrong, and I mean that sincerely, just... don't do this again.
I didn't mean to insult you, but I can see why you would feel insulted. I won't apologize, because I still stand by what I said.

Well, THIS has nothing to do with you, so please stay out of it if you're just going to be rude and insulting.
10/23/2018 03:01 PMPosted by Eviral
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If you truly felt like you were unjustified, you wouldn't have said "apparently unjustified". The simple fact is that you've pulled this sort of thing far too often for me to put much stock in this apology. I really do hope I'm wrong about you, I welcome it! Please prove me wrong, and I mean that sincerely, just... don't do this again.
I didn't mean to insult you, but I can see why you would feel insulted. I won't apologize, because I still stand by what I said.

Well, THIS has nothing to do with you, so please stay out of it if you're just going to be rude and insulting.


Well, actually, if I recall correctly, you pulled basically the same thing on my guild and used trade chat instead of the forums for your 'call out.'

Part of that gathering included Eirdwen. Also, this is a public post, so it basically involves everyone right now.
EDIT: lil typo
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HUMANS.
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10/23/2018 03:01 PMPosted by Eviral
10/23/2018 02:51 PMPosted by Eirdwen
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If you truly felt like you were unjustified, you wouldn't have said "apparently unjustified". The simple fact is that you've pulled this sort of thing far too often for me to put much stock in this apology. I really do hope I'm wrong about you, I welcome it! Please prove me wrong, and I mean that sincerely, just... don't do this again.
I didn't mean to insult you, but I can see why you would feel insulted. I won't apologize, because I still stand by what I said.

Well, THIS has nothing to do with you, so please stay out of it if you're just going to be rude and insulting.


Telling someone on a public forum not to post in your thread.
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10/23/2018 03:01 PMPosted by Eviral
Well, THIS has nothing to do with you, so please stay out of it if you're just going to be rude and insulting.


Didn't even make it to page 2 before undoing any goodwill you earned by apologizing.
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10/23/2018 02:43 PMPosted by Eviral
10/23/2018 02:39 PMPosted by Eirdwen
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It means that they're sorry that they caught !@#$ for their behavior but don't think they were in the wrong. This is a non-apology and a cry for more attention.

No. It means that at the time of my behavior, I did not think my actions were unjustified. After some reflection I came to the conclusion that I did, in fact, step out of line.
Just because you're a nihilistic cynic doesn't mean you can insult people who are making the effort to apologize and set things straight.


The fact that you keep saying "unjustified" instead of simply wrong says that you knew that what you were doing was harrassement, you just thought the people you were harassing deserves to be harassed.

And since you only apologized for "unjustified" harassment, you're likely to go on harassing in the future if you again feel it's justified.

A good apology is one for the actions involved, not for the context of them.
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10/23/2018 03:10 PMPosted by Azhaar
10/23/2018 03:01 PMPosted by Eviral
Well, THIS has nothing to do with you, so please stay out of it if you're just going to be rude and insulting.


Didn't even make it to page 2 before undoing any goodwill you earned by apologizing.

I didn't even want to make this apology a public thing. I was asked to do it to make things right. Now I'm being attacked for doing so. Damned if I do. Damned if I don't.
lol if you don't want amazing drama on the forums. just lol