The entry into the adventure of The War Within add-on has reawakened the old problems of the Beast Mastery specialization. Just when it seemed that Season 3 and 4 of Dragonflight had mastered BM’s area damage problems, Season 1 of TWW once again brought the specialty’s disastrous AoE dmg problems.
While ST’s damage is very satisfactory, if not above average - which can be seen perfectly by the raid stats (in most strictly ST fights, BM is S-tier / A-tier, leading the way) the dark side of this specialty is shown by Mythic+ dungeons. Overall damage is an outlier by about 30% compared to other classes of similar ilvl level and tierset possessed (the problem can also be seen on AoE Boss - Broodtwister Ovi’nax - check stats). It is a really sad picture to see your overall dmg at tank level, or not much higher - this was unfortunately the norm during my game yesterday - and I am an experienced Beast Mastery player (both in terms of M+ and Mythic Raids).
This situation makes Beast Mastery a very unattractive specialty for playing M+.
In my opinion, we should work on balancing character damage as soon as possible - I am in favor of both averaging ST damage, but at the same time a significant buff to AoE damage - so that the specialization is useful in any content of the game.
We need as many threads as we can make until this issue is fixed. It’s completely unacceptable design by any standard for any company to allow this issue to fester for as long as it has already. Stop being such a simp.
The aoe isn’t as bad as people are claiming. While it’s not great it’s not god awful either. If you feel it’s that awful unplayable you can swap to MM or SV as options.
I tried it in a 6 yesterday and it felt ok. Granted I had a full guild group with a competent tank pulling 2-3 packs as well.
It’s not being a simp it’s called being realistic
No change is going to happen before 11.0.5. Making multiple threads also won’t change that.
We definitely need such posts. Blizzard should immediately take an interim action that will increase cleave damage to pets, this is a fix that should go in really overnight.
11.0.5 is scheduled for release in 5 WEEKS! Looking at how long previous seasons have lasted, the waiting time for this patch is 1/4 of a season - a time during which it will be impossible for most players (of course there will be a small group of players who will do this in organized teams, while BMs in these groups will continue to be a crutch and not a full-fledged spec anyway) of Beast Mastery to realize the +10 level keys that give Mythic gear.
This is unacceptable. Beast Mastery’s problems have dragged on since Shadowlands, just when it seems that the spec situation is starting to stabilize some matron comes along and spoils it for weeks to come - it’s incredibly tiresome.
I also performed M+ at level +6, I have 4-set, 619ilvl wep, bis trins, and 610 overall ilvl eq. Despite all this, further my damage stands out by such values. It’s not normal to do DPS at tank level.
To make it funnier - I did a simbot test - I have stats under BM, but even with this equipment in MM spec my character sims 30% higher (!)…
Yes it is, please stop coming on every post and arguing that you’re better than everybody else. BM AOE off cooldown is tank level dps and saying otherwise is just false or the tank in your group can’t dps. Disregarding all that, you have said multiple times to play another spec which yes is a band aid but shouldn’t be mandatory because blizzard takes months to tune a spec.
Can you please take in account that all specs don’t prioritize the same set pieces and gear stats which in terms after BM rework I will end up with gear good for surv or MM but not as good for BM.
I don’t understand what you are trying to accomplish by arguing with everybody, I am having 0 fun right now because I’m put in a position where I have to play 2 specs I don’t like for the content I am playing. We are not asking to be top dps but being in this state since launch and having to wait months to play what you want is no one’s definition of fun
IMO people complained bm did too much aoe damage last xpac so blizz’s kneejerk reaction was to remove it completely lol. Is BM the only spec you have to specifically spec into AoE to actually do aoe damage, one of the things I complained about last xpac? BM needs a complete overhaul the same way Rets did, and now Rets are one of the most fun specs in the game.
Theres no way blizzard is gonna make a hero talent do 30% extra aoe damage for us because the only change thats happening is the hero talent rework. 11.0.5 is a bandaid, but like one of those pinky tiny bandaids on a massive wound.
I average 3.1-3.2k io every season and my raid parses are typically orange or pink in heroic and mythic. Im far from the best player, but i am not pure sh*t either.
BM aoe, however, is. Cosigning with the rest of the folks in this thread that something needs to be done well before 11.0.5
I’m stating the facts that BM damage in aoe is not at a tank level.
There are zero sims that show this. The spec can be bad in aoe and still not be tank levels of damage bad.
The real issue is you and a lot of the other posters haven’t read any guides or realized BM has a different stat priority for aoe
I have yet to see one good hunter state that BM is doing tank levels of damage.
Incorrect. I’m running with CE level tanks. Instead of blaming the class have you ever considered you might be making major rotational mistakes?
You don’t have to be fully optimized to play SV or MM. you can still gear prioritizing BM.
Considering BM prioritizes mastery/crit for aoe just like MM and SV do…
I’m trying to educate people that while BM aoe is bad it’s not tank level bad and you would gain more from self improving and reading some guides instead of complaining on the forums that won’t change anything.