I think blizzard messed up somewhere. Didn’t test the game properly, or didn’t care. We wanted the classic experience back. Classic now is just sitting in dungeons AOEing mobs with the same group, not going on adventures, not using strategy to deal with tough pulls. The game is either poorly tuned or untested. It was never this easy to hold AOE threat as a warrior in the original vanilla without taking massive damage even when geared, and this isn’t the classic experience we signed up for.
I notice you’ve been complaining a lot about this one subject in particular and I’m unsure what you expect us to do about it. AOE cleave is the meta in retail and how a lot of people learned how to dungeon and raid so obviously old habits dominate the scene there is no way to go back in time and be noobs all over again
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Is kiting and placing AoE in good locations not strategy?
Maybe for the average player who didnt know, but shout spamming has been a thing since OG BWL. Thats how a huge chunk of guilds handled Nef adds, just saying.
You can also make your own groups and do it the OG way instead of whining that your slow, no risks way of running dungeons isnt being used globally
Also farming dungeons was always a viable way of leveling that people used, youre drunk
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I agree. Layering and this AOE fast-run bullsh!t ruined classic.
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I can’t help but think that maybe the video of jerked has something to do with it. The AOE grinding ooh and ahh. On a different note, I ran RFC last night on my level 13 hunter and it was a smooth run. Everyone in group was cooperative and communicative. No crazy AOE stuff.
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It may be a new meta, but it’s not the experience I signed up for. I prefer the old way. Spamming dungeons to level is something you do in retail. It completely goes against the vanilla experience. It isn’t fun. It isn’t hard. It’s boring.
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Then me and you played very different games back then. Are you sure you were playing WoW and not EQ or something? I’ve been expected to AoE since my first stockades group. From that point on, that was just what mages do. I’d even purposely put together groups with 3 mages just because everything just kind of falls over and dies when you do that.
You ever think that maybe you were just bad at the game like the rest of us?
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Some groups 100% cleave spammed.
Maybe not yours, but competent guild teams did. Now everyone knows how to do it.
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Doesn’t matter. Sitting in dungeons to hit level cap isn’t the vanilla experience. If the LFG tool is against the spirit of vanilla and it was banned, then something must be done about this new meta. It’s no better than retail.
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Yes, it is.
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“Moooooooooom! People are having fun in a video game in a way that doesn’t affect me and it makes me angry!”
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Sitting in dungeons to level is exactly how I leveled to 60 the first time, and on my 3 alts that I leveled to 60. Questing is boring, I play to do dungeons.
It’s not a new meta, it was a thing in vanilla, you just don’t exist in your little bubble anymore.
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people just didnt know how to do it as well back then. most instances at 60 you cant as well without raid quality gear. like scholo you would get mangled pulling more than one group. you must be referring to scarlet monestary filled with melee mobs. people have been playing for 15 some years now and realize you can grab a couple mages and aoe down huge groups. its not different, its just more experienced players. a lot of people like myself stopped at some point. personally i stopped just before catalcysm and eventually joined private vanilla servers like feenix wow and elysium. a lot came from these private servers. in world chat you could see guild recruitments and how the guilds planned to migrate to classic as an entire guild. so most arent fresh at all. and even if they never did play classic wow back in the day, they played so many years of future expansions that classic isnt some new adventure and they are well experienced and know exactly what to do regardless of not playing release version.
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Complaining about the way people play the game is not going to do anything, any blizzard isn’t going to give 2 hoots about what you think about it being that you are the only one complaining about it.
Also, you saying that something is not the classic experience is just acting like a spoiled brat, “Hey everyone, Play the way i want you to or I quit!”
I can say unequivocally that levelling solely in dungeons was VERY popular back in classic. As i have done it several times myself. As a matter of fact. It was done MORE than questing as back in the day, before people started mastering the questing side and AOE grinding, dungeon grinding was the way to go.
Whatever happened to learning to cope with the metagame and use it to your advantage. Just because people have evolved in this game and found newer better ways to do something doesn’t mean that the game is broken or they missed something. It means that people are smarter and more capable than they were in the past.
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Show me one video pre-tbc where this was a thing people did as regularily as you suggest. I’ve never heard of it.
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the adventure is gone in some ways. people already know this experience and dont need to take long trips like i rode my 40 some paladin all the way through kalimdor to simply check winterspring back in early 2005. i wanted to see what mysteries were up there. everyone knows now and doesnt need to do “adventures” like that. everything is different now that everyone knows. people have been playing for 15 years. there is no mystery, just playing now.
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false flag from zoomer liar
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Only thing I can see blizzard doing is adding an enrage when too many mobs are present but that go against spirit of classic. AOE is nothing new. If you don’t like the Meta don’t play it. sometimes I join normal non-aoe cleaves. Then I get days I want to cleave mobs away.
People 5 manned Onyxia, defeated Onyxia with only priests, and you’re having problems believing that people in 2006 might take advantage of mages and warlocks using aoe abilities?
Really?
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This is how hard scholo was at level 60.
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