Anyone Watch Former Vanilla WoW Dev Commentary on Retail?

Trigger Warning: Kevin Jordan is a streamer.

It’s a breath of fresh air listening to this guy give his critique of the new QoL changes made to retail or subjects like welfare gear and how the overall streamlined experience destroys the game from within in subtle way like a death from a thousand cuts.

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One is a game designer, and one is a lawyer. And it’s easy to tell which is which.

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Ion sometimes sounds like he’s making a pitch for his new Excel Spreadsheet software at a business conference. “consumables, efficiency, mechanics, analytics, performance metrics, productivity”

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Couldn’t listen to this streamer, he talks so slow and says nothing. Very frustrating and just not professional.

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Kevin Jordan and Mark Kern, watch them daily/weekly as the case may be (well…listen mostly).

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Oh, would you look at that, he also realizes that layering destroys the integrity of the game.

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https://clips.twitch.tv/ResilientAmericanDolphinSoonerLater

That’s the clip, in case anyone is curious!

And while we’re at it, here’s him saying the Classic beta is looking great, except layering, which he says is “extreme trouble” compared to all other issues currently facing Classic:
https://clips.twitch.tv/CuteSmoothDoveBatChest

Inb4 Kevin Jordan doesn’t know what he’s talking about because it goes against #changes agenda. Just like it was with Mark Kern :grin: Time to get creative and come up with something, fast!!!

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Haha, that random generated title “ResilientAmericanDolphin”.

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I mean Kevin Jordan doesn’t come from any formal game developer background either. He was just a customer service rep before being moved to the design team.

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Wow, 200 IQ.

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I never implied Kevin Jordan doesn’t know what he’s talking about. I was just saying bashing on Ion because he comes from a non-game dev background while praising Jordan doesn’t make sense.

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“Former WoW dev turned streamer uses his old job title to get click for his new job” would be a more accurate title.

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Did you get lost here on your way to General Discussion?

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That’s what I’m saying. People are what they are, and there’s inborn things that slapping a title on someone doesn’t make them good for that job. To be a game designer you need to have intuition. You need to understand human nature. You need to know what makes people tick. Like a parent, you need to know what’s best for the gamers…often despite what they say or ask for. Kevin Jordan seems to have those qualities, as does Mark Kern, whom I also watch.

Ion is like an android trying to simulate human behavior. As Jordan himself said, Ion tries to define fun by analytics. There’s no emotional attachment. There’s no intuitive capability. Look at enough spreadsheets and fun emerges? That’s not the way good game design functions.

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I have watched Kevin Jordan and enjoyed the bits and pieces of history he has given (Did you know that Efcee the cat on the dock in Lakeshire is named for a real life cat named F***king Cat?). Cannot forgive him for being yet another Blizz employee who only cared about Horde, though. When I watched, he was playing a Gnome in Beta and said he was slumming.

That was pretty much how it worked back in the day. Devs started in QA and CS and moved up.

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I saw this thread at work yesterday, thought it would be a fun watch, so I bookmarked it and waited til I got home.

Then I realized I couldn’t listen to this butt for more than 10 minutes. Typical arrogant streamer attitude.

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I mean, he was the guild leader of Elitist Jerks. That is/was their thing.

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One doesn’t need to have a degree in game design to be a good game designer, however it is easy to see a bad game designer who sounds like he is speaking about accounting. Who would you rather DM your D&D campaign?

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