I know it’s not possible now but I was telling a friend about it and can’t seem to find any reference to it on the internet.
Long long time ago, back in them early days, someone made a addon that could look at your raid ID and know what loot bosses would drop. If you didn’t like the loot tables then guilds would just remade the raid to get a new ID.
Anyone remember this?
If I am reading what you wrote correctly, I can see why a mod like that wouldn’t any longer exist because that sounds like a cheat or exploit that would get you banned.
Back in Vanilla there were a number of mods that Blizzard banned because they were considered an exploit or cheat. The mod you are describing sounds like it would definitely fall into that category.
I personally don’t remember that mod by the way.
Yeah I remember that addon, but it was just random guess, I think the idea was that when you enter the instance is when all the loot was decided at that moment.
And people believe that and maybe at the time was one valid strat to create “random” loot, but it was just a random guess.
I think they said the ID was the seed of the random loot generator. Interesting idea but totally unrelated.
To the best of my knowledge, this addon was never possible. Raid loot is not predetermined at the time ID is created.
It might have been possible on private servers if they scripted their server code differently.
Okay so… from what I remember this was partially thanks to atlas loot and I believe used in BT.
Back when the game/content was still new, atlas had a hard time displaying items that you had never seen.
From what I remember someone figured out you could zone in to Black Temple and query atlas to show you a warglaive. If it allowed you to link, that meant Illidan would drop a glaive. If it didn’t, zone out, reset, and try again.
Of course this could just be a myth of types but I do remember reading or hearing about it years ago.
Loot never worked that way.
There is no possible way any addon could tell you what would drop based on raid ID. So whatever you’re thinking of was something else.
Loot is generated once you’ve killed the boss. Not prior to.
Just googled ‘atlas loot warglaive’ 6 year old thread.
Not saying this makes it true but it’s certainly something that was talked about
It was a huge debate at the time but I don’t think anyone ever proved it was true. Certainly, if it was true then Blizzard fixed it pretty quickly.
Supposedly with the old atlasloot, you could log in right after a server restart and go in whatever instance and query the server on your desired drop, and if it links (rather than DCing you) that means it’s going to drop.
You sure?
He talks about it 5 minutes in.
Do you people realize it is impossible for a computer to be random?
Like… literally… im… possible.
Everything is the raid itself is attached to the raid ID, and loot to the person who created the ID.
This is why people complain about never getting drops despite 100 MC runs. The same guy creates the raid.
Boss random boss mechanics are likely determined by your account ID like Ony. The seed player could be random, but that is how it is done.
How do you think loot is determined in retail? player ID obviously, nothing random about it.
Never existed.
Atlas loot trick did exist, but it was misunderstood. Atlas loot only populated the list IF the item existed in the server, so there was no reliable way to check even after each weekly reset.
If it doesn’t detect offline players’ glaives and loot is generated when bosses spawn, seems like you could check easily.
But the loot changes even if the same guy makes the raid… are you saying certain player IDs will never get certain drops?
not really, how would you know its from your instance? not counting the fact that you would have to know / have everyone that had a glaive in your server on your friendlist (before the whole battle net friendlist thing) and know that they hadnt simply logged in and logged out before you entered the instance…
it detects items from offline player’s as long as they logged on at least once after a reset, it just the server doesnt populate list when it first comes online after a reset, once the item is populated, then its fine.
Uh… I don’t know that this would be an issue.
That’s why you go right after restart. When almost nobody has glaives it’s easy to add everyone who has them.
I’m not sure how you’re so certain this was never a thing.
Yes, that would be an issue and thats how it worked.
cuz I played WoW since vanilla to WoTLk without break? I’ve even tried it back then, when youd simply get an error on atlas loot if the item isnt populated. It was NEVER a sure fire thing. You’d only see people with glaives left right and center if that was the case.
A lot of people had glaives, even on small servers. I played on cho’gall during BC, it was a popular server, literally the best pvp server and had 3 or 4 of the top US 10 guild there. It was not a simple thing to check.
Didn’t say that.
No, not really, and I can think of many reasons why. Most people aren’t willing to camp through a restart, then camp all day long until raid time once they found the desired instance. Most people didn’t know it was even MAYBE a thing. Some people thought it was actionable.
Uh, maybe after a significant amount of time. There was certainly a long period during which glaives were not remotely common.
So it was impossible? Don’t think so.
If you mean it’s impossible for a computer to generate a truly random number that’s not actually true.
It is true, actually.
Random number generators are still only capable of generating psuedo-random numbers as determined by the algorithm used in the programming.
Effectively it is random, though. It’s just not truly random.
Those are just the easiest method. There are ways for machines to generate truly random numbers.
thats a hack, or cheat. not an addon. that would obviously save many weeks or months of raid farming for literally only the people who used that addon (cheat)