Anyone getting the awful feeling

Careful making that argument, that’s an argument for damage buffs. Killing spree and dread blades are legitimate burst options. Play with MA and you’ll see how it can be enabled. The problem is they don’t hurt plate targets. The damage from hitting a plate target and a leather/mail/cloth target during that burst window is 10-15k damage.

I wish people would stop touting shadow dance as this it’s the only control tool available to rogues. Outlaw was better at enabling burst windows for partners when BTE was a ranged stun on < 20 second cd. But don’t worry, it DR’d stuns in PVE so it can’t have that.

Sap, Bomb, kidney and blind are the meat and potatoes of the rogue control kit.

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And being a black man I find your verbiage hmm racist.

I’m getting the same kinda feeling I had when sub was forgotten and ignored for almost 2 years

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No. Killing spree is junk for burst. In pve you are going to get about 12-14k from it on about a 1 min cooldown with combo point dumps. In pvp where you aren’t going to just be PvEing your target dumping combo points constantly it is easily going to be a 1.5 min cooldown. So after versatility removing 30% of that damage and ignore it already doing less in pvp you would be ‘bursting’ people for 9-10k every 1.5 minutes?

Spooky.

It’s funny because they removed all damage enabling parts of bte in the same time, no reason it couldn’t have just been expose armor filling that maintenance Debuff role while leaving the stun alone

Yes? I have s2 Gladiator drake.

Yep, it’s the easiest excuse for me. Do I want to log in two nights a week at the specific time? No.

Here I’ll derp it up for you. DR STUN OK. I clearly understand that it DR’s the stun, it’s just not as important as you make it out to be

Tell you what, I’ll go play real games this week instead of helping people gear alts on a spec that’s suffering in this plate meta. I haven’t even taken PVP seriously this expansion on the general principle of Divine toll, convoke, combust and holy paladins are just flat out busted.

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Good for you.

Thats your choice.

Obviously it wasnt “fine” when high end mythic plus rogues were complaining about it.

Sounds like excuses. You say you’re so much better than me yet I have done the exact same thing.

So youre not taking pvp seriously, youre not playing pve seriously, why even play the game?

I am better than you, it’s simple. If you think outlaw is a trash spec, and we’re the roughly the same rating, I’m a better player than you.

Why would I take this game seriously at this point in my life? I’ve made gladiator, I’ve cleared the highest content before and this is some of the dumbest game balancing I’ve seen in a long time.
When some classes can hit for 17k-25k in a single GCD (42%-62% of high end gear health), why on earth would you take this seriously enough to tryhard. Why would you bother with mythic raiding when the amount of time commitment there is insane. I’m sorry, I’m too old to be able to spend 3-4 hours straight, 2-4 nights a week on a hobby (because that’s what it means to take this seriously at the beginning of the expansion ). At this point in my life, I play this game for fun. I’m smart enough to look at some classes balances and go, this is garbage why would I put myself through this.

They complained about because deadshot was an azerite trait and sanguine was punishing for using it. It’s a non issue in this expansion because deadshot doesn’t exist and sanguine is 2 weeks out 12.

side note: If one person is pugging heroic nathria for the first time, they gonna have some pretty bad parses, oh look I did a 78th percentile on artificer pogchamp. A consistent raid group is going to have better parses because everyone is a good player and not a pug. DPS cd ramps don’t falldown enough because everyone pumps. It’s why a holy paladin pulled 14k DPS single target in MDI in DOS.

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We really are just apes flinging excrement at each other, huh?

Lol no you arent.

It is

You have 40 more games to equal the same rating.

Excuse

Back when people didnt even know what a focus macro is.

Back when raiding was easier

Two nights a week isnt that much of a commitment. Just more excuses.

End of the day you are mediocre at best and just making up excuses.

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It’s not worth it

So, you can just go to feats of strength, look at the mounts. It doesn’t all achievements at the correct time and they changed how

Achievements were not yet in the game in season 2. :scream_cat: You can see the mount in his collection.

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I can admit when I’m wrong.

Doesn’t mean he did it on rogue though.

You think that blizzard would care about rogues enough to make meaningful changes? Sorry you must not be familiar with how blizzard does things

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Two nights a week is a time commitment, no matter how you look at it. You’re not wrecking me as hard as you think.

I mean sure, let’s go with that. I could raid but it’s not been my thing.

You do know they changed how titles worked in BFA, right? It reset all of the achievements.

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I mean, I’ll see if someone has the screenshots from when I did it if that makes you feel any better.

I don’t care that much. All it means is you obtained glad when most people were awful at this game even more than they are now.

What game? We all have different goals, right? There are a lot of ways to achieve them which is why WOW is great.

BTW, I respect your advice, not trying to win this thread

Speaking of the original topic in the thread- anyone know when the next round of 9.0.5 patch notes are going to be released?
I’ve been holding out for a reinvigorated pve rogue- but if I hold my breath any longer I’ll lose consciousness

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