Not sure if it’s just me but I’ve never liked having ravager for prot. It feels out of place and awkward to use. Not to mention thematically it doesn’t make sense at all.
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I straight up hate ravager.
In all forms.
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Ravager should be a choice node. Personally, I would like Bladestorm back on Fury.
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Ravager definitely makes the rotation feel clunky. I have been trying UF on my war in M+. The dps and survival is comparable for me. Banner can be a bit more difficult to keep up early in the key without ravager but with a few shrouded haste stacks it’s not bad.
I’m talking about live idk about DF btw.
that’s a new one.
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I sorta like it for threat and rage generation. But never would I have imagined using it as prot. I guess it’s cool I don’t need to talent into haste anymore with all the dreadlords lurking around, but it still just feels like a weird dps cooldown…because it is a weird dps cooldown.
To be honest I’ve never like how ravager works. It looks cool but it’s not warrior-esque. Like, what even is it? A weird mix between a magic spell and a spinning axe throw? It’s too ‘magical’ for a warrior.
It’s my opinion. I mean try using UF for a key. It really does flow nicer imo.
I love it. I throw it out then leap in and clap.
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I’ve tested extensively with unstoppable force vs into the fray vs ravager. They all end up about the same dps using the appropriate legendary and talents.
The one that feels the best with a lot of haste is into the fray. Ravager is best for when needing that extra amount of rage but you need to be spamming the crap out of stuff or overcap on rage which is a dps loss.
The most overall dps I’ve done in a dungeon was when I used into the fray with seismic reverberation and spam revenge when avatar and spear is up.
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I love ravager. I use it with avatar and it really helps push dps
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I don’t hate ravager but it’s not exciting either. Just use an @player macro and hit it after I pull a few packs with other CDs. The extra rage it provides is nice.
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I hate it almost as much a Spear of Bastion and that’s saying a lot. Both need to be removed from the game. Please and Thanks.
I don’t care if they keep buffing them I don’t want to use them and it’s not what being a warrior is about.
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Not really, I love the rage generation it gives.
I mostly use ravager on live. I like it mechanically. But i do get that it doesnt really blend thematically. Its basically an ability some boss had (cant remember who) that now we have.
With all the choices that will bw available . . . . . .
If you do not like the given option, DON’T USE IT.
No one is saying you HAVE TO use a certain said option.
Ok but hear this though. If it’s a dead talent that is uninspired and hated by most players…then why not remove it and make a fun new talent that people might want to choose.
It’s like Second Wind, no one uses it. Just remove it from the game if you can’t restore it to it’s previous power or make something new. No reason to leave a dead talent there hanging out for everyone to ignore.
Ravager has always been medicore at best imo and usually not worth taking as prot has had aoe burst better suited in othet talents the last few expanion
Furthermore stationary abilties like ravager, concecrate and DnD to name a few is somewhat contradictory to kiting and mob placement, the latter being increasingly important in high end content
I dont hate ravager in fact generally i enjoy it because its an easy set it and forget it rage gen and AOE agro gen.
THAT SAID, i think shock wave and ravager need to be swapped on the warrior trees, Shock wave shoudl be a prot only things, and ravager should be an any warrior thing.
Im suprised shockwave found itself soo far down the tree, its been a prot staple since what legion?
Ive noticed that picking a dmg heavy build alot of cc and stuns are given up and will def have some cost benefit analysis to do.
its been a prot staple since it was introduced in wrath.
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