Even though I tend to agree that paid transfers won’t be a thing just yet, I highly doubt that it’ll take 18 months before they’re enabled. You can’t really use the vanilla timeline as an argument because then someone could easily tell you that vanilla didn’t launch with 1.12 either.
Exactly, Classic isn’t Vanilla, so why do people insist on trying to lean on that when discussing things.
We could start a ten page tread on the differences between Vanilla and Classic, yet people continually say “we had it in Vanilla !” as a reference point.
You’re not wrong. But keep in mind that most people here talk about server transfers because Blizzard themselves said that they were looking into it, in classic. The assumption that paid transfer will be a thing doesn’t so much come from “we had it in vanilla” but more from blizzard saying that they were working on the logistics behind it.
Yep, and we’ve all seen how things go when Blizzard says “we’re working on XXX”…or remember when Brack said “you think you do, but you don’t”…and now we have Classic. They’re not historically great at making PR statements.
Hopefully, they have seen the amount of furor that it will cause, giving people an out from a realm, when they have already stated they’re apprehensive about changes that will bring about a change to socialization ( see LFG addon squishing ).
I honestly hope paid transfers never become a thing in Classic. Blizzard have laid the foundations to back out of it with the repeated warnings about player queues, new servers being made and free limited transfers to balance populations.
At a minimum, I wouldn’t expect to see paid transfers for at least the first 6 - 12 months, and even then it doesn’t address the potential for it to be used to absolve someone of their misdeeds on another server.
There will be no furor since most of us are clamoring for paid transfers, and the small amount of naysayers on the forums won’t change that. Here’s to hoping they get rolled out soon.
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Again, you’re not wrong. But we’re talking about whether or not Activision Blizzard will implement a 25$ a pop service. Yes they said that classic would never happen… but then what happened when they realized that there actually was money to be made? Would it cause a disturbance in realm identity? I doubt it but maybe it would. Will it cause a disturbance big enough to make Activision Blizzard forfeit pure profit? No way. I do agree with your 6 to 12 months assumption though.
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Really ?
Firstly, the forums represent an insignificant fraction of the actual players, many players don’t ever come to or post on the forums.
Secondly, who is “us” ?, just those few who have posted in this thread in support of it ??, the same people who have tried to concoct every reason imaginable to justify them having ignored repeated warnings about server queues and options to roll on new servers ?
Really… you can’t say you’re “invested” on a toon that’s 1 week old with barely a few days played time accrued while you lot were also complaining about queues that were stopping you playing with your friends who were already logged in on other servers. There’s so many holes in all the arguments presented, you don’t have a bucket left, just a handle.
Try arguing your case from a less hypocritical standpoint and you might garner some sympathy to your cause.
I stopped trying to understand Blizzard and it’s decisions about 10 years ago…they still leave me baffled.
I guess the lure of another dollar for the executive of the day is all that explains it.
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Yes, sadly.
I think on my home oceanic server there are ~5 level 60s, on other oceanic servers they are progressing well into MC… I would xfer if they opened up paid ones.
Many people are hoping for paid transfers to play with their friends, guilds, etc. and don’t want to reroll a new level 60 character to do so. So just because you won’t benefit from server transfers don’t hate on those who will. The alternative is much worse of thousands of people eventually quitting because they can’t play with their friends and realms start to turn into ghost towns. The people you play with is what will keep you coming back in conjunction with a great game.
Nothing is wrong with Blizzard making money from this as well. It’s a win win situation. A business turns a profit (horrific, I know) and people get to play with their friends and stay interested long term which in return means more subscriptions for longer for Blizzard and more thriving communities on each server as friends reunite.
The horrendous launch week is why thousands of friends/guilds are split up. You can’t blame the community for what happened. They moved multiple times at Blizzards request and still got hit with long Q times. All that moving around is how so many people got split up. Just because YOU might not have been impacted don’t speak for others who are in a different situation.
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Both sides of the arguments have valid points. I don’t personally care either way since I’m not planning on transferring. I’m not so much arguing FOR transfer so much as I’m trying to convey that no matter what, they will happen.
But I do have a problem with your “a company exist to make money” point. Yes, obviously Activision Blizzard is not a non-profit organization. But that does not in any way justify their every actions. For example, charging 20 bucks for a cosmetic hat in a pay to play on top of a monthly subscription game is outrageous. Copying your character data, an entirely automated process, shouldn’t cost 25$. Them asking 130$ CAD for a version of call of duty that doesn’t include all the content is infuriating and so on.
You have enough valid arguments to support you asking for paid transfers without white knighting one of the least consumer friendly publisher on the market.
I agree with you there. They do charge for some outrageous things and the Call of Duty example is a great one. I’ve never cared much for cosmetics, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t thousands of people who think differently and are willing to pay for ridiculous things.
Most business will always try and take advantage of a situation to try and make more money if they could and the only way to convey to them that it’s a bad idea is to let your money do the talking and not pay for things or unsub if you aren’t happy. But as long as people keep paying, they’ll keep doing what they do.
As for server transfers, I like a small fee associated with that so the people moving are at least somewhat committed and aren’t just bouncing around thinking the grass is greener on the other side type of mentality. This will hopefully weed out those people and leave the service for those who really want to play with their friends or are unhappy with the community on said server.
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You’re absolutely right, the onus does fall on us to “regulate” the market. But it’s still infuriating to see them try to bleed their customers dry, you know? Some of their monetization are borderline predatory.
Yeah I agree that a fee needs to be put in place to stop people from server hopping at will. It’s not so much the 25$ transfer fee on its own that I have a problem with. It’s that coupled with all the other overpriced “character services” they have.
We’re getting them eventually whether you like it or not. Get used to the idea.
Yup, very well aware it’s highly likely.
Also well aware no amount of whining and demanding it now is going to make it happen. Best case scenario for your transfers is 6 months out, not tomorrow, it’s also possible they could be as far as 1 year away.
That is sufficient IMHO, it will have given enough time to pass for people to need a transfer for legitimate reasons, and those who ignored every warning will have re-rolled or left already.
I’m yet to see a legitimate reason from anyone for NEEDING a paid transfer at this stage in the timeline post release.
Well riddle me this smartypants,
I have some friends who staywd on the high queue server abd some friends who moved to lower pop server. These friends are not known to each other so when i started that evening after launch the two groups had already started on two realms.
The other group would join me if they could or we would all join them if we could but we have no ab ility to.
This was ENTIRELY due tp blizzards fault. When launch happened we had only ONE oceanic server. There wasnt even a 2nd server on the horizon until about 8 hours after launch after some friebds qere already leveled up and invested in the first realm.
Let us move freely between realms but force players to give a reason and a high price and also limit to one transfer per 6 months or something.
Keep living in denial i guess, paid transfers are 100% guaranteed because blizzard opened too many servers. they will come wether you like it or not lol
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The problem is that 8 hours isn’t “invested” for a toon, 8 days maybe, 80 days definitely, but refusing to reroll over 8 hours …
The problems you have are of your own making, expecting transfers to made available to suit your own shortsightedness and ignorance is asinine.
p.s. for gods sake, please learn to type and/or spell check, the forums even highlight everything wrong for you…
They’re not in the near future. At some point, probably. If playing with friends is a major issue for you, it’s time to have a powwow and everyone reroll on the same server.
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