Counter point. Let me go to war with both factions and be apart of neither.
I disagree with this notion entirely. Loosening the faction divide so people can group with their friends is fine, but this would be absolutely awful and kill the spirit of WoW even further. No thanks.
No? OP racials would still be OP no matter what and still need to be adjusted. This has nothing to do with anything and is just being stated because you think it furthers your argument. Which, spoiler alert, it doesn’t.
Or you can just play those druids and group with Horde people you know through btag. You know, like cross-faction allows.
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I dunno about the ‘going to war’ part, but if Factions exist strictly as a PvP mechanic, then I could see the possibility of being a part of an Adventurer’s League of sorts that allows you to ignore whatever the Alliance and Horde are doing to each other and focus on the world-ending threats presented by the stories of the campaign.
no thanks i like the way the game is now with only certain people can be this and that. i would definitely not like if they do what you ask. i love faction wars and the fact the toons i play can only be certain things. i don’t want this whole game homogenized pass.
I really enjoyed the N’zoth pvp toy in BFA, that allowed people in warmode to become neutral to mobs and hostile to both factions, including faction NPCs. So you were only friendly to others also using the toy and could speak to them in the old god language.
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To be fair, ESO had to unlock the races (for a paid premium, mind you) because you had factions with functionally useless stam/mag builds for endgame.
Nothing is homogenized with this change, what are you on about? The Factions still hate each others’ guts, and would only accept the membership of certain races owing to ‘wartime paranoia’, but the Adventurer’s League would exist for those tired of PvP and just wanting to focus on PvE exploits. So with that, you’d never see an Orc in Stormwind colors or a Human with Orgrimmar colors, but you also wouldn’t be obligated to try and kill each other either because THAT IS INSANE.
‘Hey, that big dude over there wants to end the planet!’
‘You’re right, that’s a huge problem that we need to deal with!’
‘Yeah, if we don’t come together we can’t stop it!’
‘Too right. A combined arms effort it’ll be!’
‘… So do you have a Horde Alt?’
‘What? No, I only play Alliance. You?’
‘Aw man, no.’
‘Welp, guess we must kill each other.’
‘Oh, it’s the only way.’
You really don’t see the problem with the above?
No.
These types of threads make my butt itch… why? Why can’t we have set races to a faction, why do we always have to have unlimited choice… that takes away any effect to choices, because now you are no longer being penalized or rewarded for a choice… your choice now holds no purpose.
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Your choice still matters because it’ll be an expression of your character’s backstory, and you’ll have more overall control over it. Choosing a character’s race isn’t supposed to be some game-altering experience, it’s supposed to be a part of the foundation of the individual being played.
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At the end of the day… you forsake any lore for the sheer fact that WANT more choice… your choice means nothing at this point, because there will never be good solid lore… this is part of the reason why the STORY ON WOW SUCKS. The company sacrifices lore and story-telling for people wanting to be Tauren Rogues that are fighting for the alliance against the horde.
Nothing you can say is going to change that fact. But screw it, let’s ruin the game further and give everyone everything, everyone gets a rank one glad, aotc and mythic raiding achievements for very little effort… because lore and story mean nothing to any of you.
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I think that being able to start as any race faction hurt elder scrolls online.
I’m all for an EverQuest 2 style faction switch; quit faction, be neutral for abit, join new faction or old one.
Being able to dictate your own character’s path is a critical point to feeling any kind of connection to the game at large. Otherwise I might as well just play a pre-gen.
‘Chose Orc? You’re a Shaman. Chose Tauren? You’re a Warrior. Chose Night Elf? You’re a Hunter. Chose Human? You’re a Paladin. Oh, and you hate the other side for reasons even though your leaders continue to work together and find areas of cooperation and compromise.’ That doesn’t make any sense, and it’s why the Faction War feels so incredibly forced. It’s why BFA’s storyline was a complete bust. Furthermore, you can’t have a PvP storyline be the overarching narrative of a PvE campaign because in faction versus faction, one side needs to lose or the whole battle was pointless. And guess what happened? Neither side made any real progress in the ‘war’, and the larger threat was empowered by it, making both sides incredibly stupid for engaging in it in the first place.
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To be fair.
Everyone wants to snuggle into female orc abs.
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How does one respond to something so non-sensical?
No BFA’s story busted because it was poorly written, nothing to do with the faction conflict. If that was case, why didn’t MOP fail? Oh right, better written… why didn’t legion fail? Better written. Stop tryin to make this about faction conflict, it’s good for the game and story, it’s easy to build around conflict. You want to take that away from an already talentless bunch of hack writers that they currently employ?
When you can make sense of a tauren rogue that is fighting for the alliance… we can continue this.
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MoP’s storyline ultimately culminated in ‘war solves nothing and egos need to be checked’, a lesson that apparently NOBODY LEARNS. Garrosh was a massive warning bell that the Factions need to start playing nicer or things are going to get much, much worse.
Legion wasn’t about the faction conflict! It was Azeroth versus the Burning Legion! We even had entire sequences dedicated to the Alliance and Horde working together! There was even an entire encounter based around ping-ponging a boss mob back and forth between the Horde army and the Alliance army!
YOU are the one screaming ‘we need to make sure the factions are at each others’ throats, no cooperation or calm minds’. It makes no sense that my character, a character that has never once sought to spill Alliance blood, has this massive hatred of anyone wearing a Lion tabard because some dead woman told me I hated them, especially when those same lion-tabard-wearers are trying to kill the thing I’ve identified as the actual threat!
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When did I say that? They don’t need to be at each-other’s throat… you like putting words in my mouth, conflict doesn’t always mean war… hostility/disliking is a thing.
It started off with hostility towards the horde for leaving… did you not play it?
That’s the point, it’s there though… it pushed the story forward.
Take this, L.
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probably, meanwhile, i wanna visit goldshire without the risk of the guards attempting to skin me and turn me into a hat. my fur isn’t strong-enough to withstand that, it’ll fall-out in huge clumps!
both in game, and in real life! i’ve (unfortunately) seen it first-hand! >_<
Disliking someone isn’t an offense worthy of death, and again, WHY DO I DISLIKE SOMEONE I’VE NEVER MET? My character is OBVIOUSLY not a xenophobe, I work with different races all the time! Hell, some of them are Human, Dwarven, Night Elf, and other Alliance races!
If someone’s not trying to kill me, why should I be forced to be hostile to them? I SHOULD be able to team up with them to bring down a hard mob, or a roving threat, or even just talk.
And again culminated with a combined arms approach toward taking down the threat and more lessons like MoP promptly ignored.
How did it push the story forward when we outright ignored everything that the story was trying to teach? ‘Stop fighting you morons, it’s going to get worse and worse if you keep up hostilities’ The Horde and Alliance continue an ever-escalating conflict ‘Oh no how did it get so bad?’
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Man having a discussion with you is like talking to a wall… you ignore the fact that those are successful expansions and had faction conflict in them, which helped drive the stories forward. Logic just doesn’t work on people like you and I’m not high enough to deal with this level of ignorance, so you have yourself a good morning and I’m gonna find someone intelligent or entertaining to discuss stuff with. 
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It’s not a good story when the same problem keeps happening despite us having all of the information in the world to solve it or to stop it before it becomes a problem.
You also haven’t explained why my character automatically despises everyone in a lion tabard. Especially when they’re trying to kill the thing I want dead.