I 100% would NOT I would go with the 7800x3D 7950x3d over 14th Gen.
I have personally tested both and I shared my results above. The X3D cpus in wow are hands down better.
The problem with Intel in Gaming is you need very expensive Ram that’s incredibly fast to even compare. This is even more true in WoW. It is incredibly latency sensitive. The results I listed in my post above where I was roughly 30fps behind AMD on intel was with 7400mhz RAm. If I had been on 6000 MHz it would have been even a bigger difference. If you are going with 14th gen you will need 7800mhz+ ram to compete with a 7800x3D and 6000mhz sytem. Ram speed in gaming with AMD matters much less due to the exceptionally large cache on the X3D chips.
I’m sorry to break the news to you on this but I’m just reporting the facts. Like I said I have personally tested this on two rigs side by side. One intel and one AMD. The screenshots I posted reflect the results. Both tests were done in Valdraken at prime time on Area52 which is the best place next to a raid to Benchmark the game
I am for Shifty’s suggestion for the AMD, but really comes down to what you’re doing for homelabs. The x3d cache is a game changer for games like WoW, however not so much if you’re just hosting servers or doing productivity work related things. Intel has some spots where it still shines in those area especially legacy software.
Regarding the midtier laptop question, I am currently using a 2021 razerblade with an i7 10750h and 3070. Runs WoW pretty well and can host few VM without impacting too much on the performance side of the house.
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This is completely true. However this is where the 7950x3d shines. I have the bios set to prefers frequency cores and use Process Lasso to force my game to only run on the cache cores aka CCD0 and it’s 100% dedicated to the game. CCD1 runs all background task and literally anything else I do on my PC. But when I’m not gaming Im back to 16 core Cpu. When used properly it really is the best of both worlds.
Due to the use of Process Lasso there may be a learning curve for some people. With that said you only have to set it up once. Once it’s set up it does its thing automatically
Nevertheless you can see there is a decent difference between the 14900k and the 7950x3D in favor of the X3D chip. With that said if your PC is used more for gaming 7800x3D is what you want. I have 7950x3D because I do production work when not gaming. If I didn’t I would have gotten the 7800x3D hands down.
Once again those two screenshots were taken at 4k max settings. So the difference between the two will be larger at lower resolutions
An added benefit to AMD currently is AM5 has about two more Generations left. Intel LGA 1700 is done. So if you go with them 14th series is where it stops
This is why I hardly chime in on build posts anymore. Everyone is an expert these days. Granted 90% of them just quickly read an article and then come back to a forum to sound like it’s learned experience.
I stopped building my own systems in the ten years I go to prebuilt nowadays. Which gets an eye raised because all the people still building their own don’t understand after building my own for decades I got tired. Also thankfully I have more income now so dropping 3-5k for a system every 6-8 years doesn’t phase me.
depending on the rest of your system, why not go out and try the 5700x3d? It’ll defintely boost your fps in WoW, depending on what type of workload for the homelab, maybe the IPC difference will offset the lost of 4 cores/8threads.
the resell value of the 3900x is roughly ~$130-150 ballpark as well so that is already a good chunk you get back.
The 7800x3d didn’t have the scheduling issue and it consumes less power/produces less heat allowing it to maintain higher clockspeeds.
I am not sure if the windows scheduler was completely resolved, but as Shiftydruid mentioned above there is a software that allows you to park the cores better. So the 7900x3d can benefit you if you can make use of those cores.
My personal advice to you is, unless the rest of your system is lack luster, I’d just go for the 5700x3d. The dimnishing returns of the 7800x3d isn’t worth paying roughly $200 for.
Here some bonus if you live near a Microcenter and want to upgrade. Motherboard and ram are fair market prices, awhile the 7800x3d is discounted pretty heavily with the bundle https://i.imgur.com/6tMGXFl.png
For a Gaming Rig the 7800x3D is what you want. ONLY reason I have the 7950x3D is I use my PC for Production work when Im not gaming.
Just re-solidifying the 7800x3D is what you want for a gaming rig. You need to be using your PC as Production Rig aka its your job outside of gaming to consider the 7950x3D. You also need to be familiar with Process Lasso. Its a Niche CPU for folks like me in a niche market. Aquorius is right. People who need the 7950x3D KNOW they need it.
Get the 7800x3D hands down. My only disagreement is on the motherboard but thats more of a ME problem. Its not a fact just a preference which is 100% MY OWN OPINION. I refuse to buy a motherboard without a Q-Code Reader so I would get the ASUS ROG Strix B650E-E Gaming WiFi Motherboard. But if you dont care about that what Aquorius is an AMAZING deal and should NOT be ignored!
