Am I crazy? Or has there been not a single word about augmentation for the war within? It “feels” like blizzard isn’t sure what to do with a spec they introduced halfway into an xpac and then let die shortly after.
The spec needs some depth and some serious help for pvp. I enjoy it but I would love for it not to feel worthless playing it.
I’ve noticed that too, to my knowledge the only big announced change is that Spatial Paradox got moved out of the spec tree to the class tree.
Now, this is complete conspiracy thinking, but what’d make a lot of sense for so little news is if Aug was…changing somewhat. And if you look in Chronowarden tree, Interdimensional Phase gives 20% damage reduction and Time Convergence adds 10% Stamina on defensive abilities. And in the Scalecommander tree, Nimble Flyer gives some AoE reduction and both Hardened Scales and Menacing Presence on the same choice node give different options of damage reduction. To say nothing for Scalecommander reducing Deep Breath CD, which both can remove CC and (when talented) stun all affected enemies.
This is TOTAL conspiracy thinking, absolutely based on nothing. But to me, those all seem very…tank-y abilities. Which at minimum, got my hopium actin up.
We need some kind of news as to what this spec is getting in the next expac for sure.
If they were going to make aug a tank spec, the rest of the SC and CW trees make no sense for them, so I’d very much doubt it. These are also shared trees, so they wouldn’t really tailor that much of them to a dramatic shift.
Something drastic like that would likely have been one of the first things introduced for testing after the gigantic cluster that introducing aug late made.
These DR abilities in every tree are just some good QoL for the specs.
One of the main complaints you hear is Evokers feel squishy so the DR stuff just seems to be an attempt to fix that issue. We will see, but I don’t think we will see a tanking spec.
And even though we’re not really squishy anymore, I’ll gladly take more DR lol.
They said they’re happy with how it is. Only thing to expect is tuning
Also said they’d never pull the rip cord. Until I see some actual tuning work I’m choosing to think they’re converting to tank. Maybe support-tank.
Thats certainly a way of thinking that will not lead you to any disappointment whatsoever
IThey are not now, nor would they ever change Aug to a tank. At worst they’d change it to a regular ranged dps spec, as that would be the path of least resistance, and way of least upsetting the people who play and enjoy the spec now.
There’s not a single thing that would be rationally leading you to this conclusion.
Survival hunter going melee design vs range certainly upset those who enjoyed it. Changes that upset a subset of players aren’t necessarily off the table
So you’re saying that converting aug into a pet class which empowers a little army of dragons IS still on the table?
They did what they did to survival because it wasn’t actually very different from the other two specs both mechanically, and thematically. Also because hunters had a history of melee skills that had gone under utilized.
And still yet, they didn’t change it to a different role. So the most i think you could hope for is it being changed to a melee dps.
However, again, in a very recent interview they said they’re happy with how aug has been working out. And if they had planned on changing it entirely you’d hear about it now, in the alpha. So if you’re expecting drastic changes to the core of the spec, you’re going to be disappointed.
Changed pseudo role (ranged martial vs melee martial), disappointed a lot of people (though personally enjoy melee hunter on the occasions I play it), but true enough. Still historic precedence for changing roles - Frost DK used to be a tank spec until devs believed Blood fit the role more. Its not an impossibility.
Look, I’m not sayin its super likely. But its a nonzero chance with circumstantial evidence to back up the possibility, and as a preferred outcome I’d enjoy it if it happened.
As for being disappointed - life’s full of disappointment. I’d rather hope for something cool I’d like to see over just accepting what is.
DK was at various points in Wrath able to tank as all three specs. They were also technically able to DPS as all three specs. Blizzard killed that to actually give one spec a full set of tank tools instead of pretending that it would continue to work that way.
There is none.
DKs got a dedicated tank spec to condense the three specs’ tanking capabilities into one spec. That’s not completely switching a spec role, and by the end of Wrath Blood DPS was a meme.
Hunters had Survival changed from… DPS, to DPS.
There is no history of Blizzard changing an existing spec into a tank or healer spec. No, I’m not counting separating the tanking and dpsing functionalities of Blood, Frost, Unholy, or Feral. You know that’s not the same as just deleting the existing function of Aug and making it a tank.
Middle of the pack, above all three Rogue specs.
So are you going to substantiate that statement, or…?
Uhhh, you made the initial claim so why don’t you? I just finished playing a year and a half of WoTLK as a Blood DPS.
Middle of the pack:
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/1020#dataset=99®ion=5
Even in Cataclysm where Blood was made into a dedicated tank spec with a tank mastery, I’m doing MORE DPS as Blood DPSing in Unholy Presence than I am as Frost in Heroics.
So not this, then, which you claimed. Also using 99th, not considering 100th or overall in your statement since neither of those actually work with your claim here.
Let’s see…
-Not beating Combat Rogue. Being happy to beat Subtlety or Assassination in a raid setting in WOTLK or WOTLK Classic is kinda funny, if a bit sad.
-At the actual 100th parsing bracket, Blood is a meme. In the overall spread of parses, it’s even more of a meme.
-In OG Wrath, Blood became a meme dps build as time went on.
So, grats? Could’ve gotten more mileage out of Unholy or Frost, but you do you. Still doesn’t change what I said.
Oh, so you’re one of those Blood DPSers. The kind that couldn’t let it go.
Got it, say no more. Ignore it is.
Bad player was proven wrong and got mad. What else is new in the world!