Any idea what leggo surv will run without craven?

Will craven still be used, or will they use a different legendary? Haven’t played my hunter since WoD so still learning.

Craven.

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Craven.

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Idk craven is still too useful to give up into a ton of classes

Not running it if there’s a mage, warlock, warrior, death knight, or feral seems really sus

prob cotw if craven isn’t taken
but craven is still really good

Bruh.

The logic behind nerfing Craven is literally: Too many trash players crying about it. So we nerfed it:

  Developers’ note: The short cooldown of Feign Death from Craven Strategem **can be frustrating to play against, especially for classes whose primary damage comes from damage over time effects.** We are changing the cooldown reduction from Craven Strategem to address this.

Yeah.

It’s “frustrating” when people run behind walls.

It’s “frustrating” when people keep healing for full health.

It’s “frustrating” when people are immune to everything.

No.

LOGICAL.

SENSE.

Just Blizzard tears.

These are the changes as to why WoW PvP will always BE A JOKE.

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Fixed that for ya.

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You know…

…I’ve been here since before Vanilla WoW.

Trust me when I say: Blizzard nerfs and buffs to appease BAD players.

In fact, a lot of classes were nerfed in Vanilla because people that didn’t like PvP, kept playing on PvP servers and getting destroyed.

If you thought Craven was a problem; chances are you are a druid, warlock or a really terrible player.

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Fried post.

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As long as you got the message.

I see a tbc character, so I assume fried boomer, but

If you don’t KNOW that craven was a problem then you’re absolutely

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For the record, I’m a fried boomer and I think the Craven nerf is totally justified. Don’t unjustly bucket all of us!

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I mean its the same thing as the season 1 Corruption slow legendary…

When 1 legendary makes a class completely obnoxious to fight its pretty safe to say its bad design.

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That’s what I’ve always used just made craven two weeks ago :frowning:

craven is the most broken legendary in the game and its not even close.

it will still be bis in most cases even if it doesn’t reduce the cd of feign death.

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Incredible

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It’s only broken for classes that spam dots and run away or hide behind pillars waiting for their dots to kill you.

It’s always WARLOCKS crying about nerfs and buffs since 2004.

Mute even made a whole pvp video crying about it.

They could have just made the part where it removed the dots every certain amount of seconds but they just blanket nerfed the whole thing.

That’s NOT good development but a lazy quick fix.

It’s been 18 plus years.

This game is never, EVER going to be balanced or even close to it so the fact people keep reaching for it is ridiculous and shows that people really think it’s not going to end up the same way again lol

Also, I played in Arenas without it and yes it helps, but if you were getting destroyed before…you’re still going to get destroyed by MM hunters.

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Craven should have been nerfed in the first pass of legendary tuning. It’s disgustingly broken because of its synergy with a certain pvp talent and feels awful to play against as a dot class.

MAYBE it would be ok if you couldn’t also get a 90% wall when dispelling everything but to be able to completely avoid dispell protection every 15 seconds is just dumb.

You shouldn’t just get to be immune to dots/dispell protection.

It’s always the classic posters…

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I mean, I personally never used it every 15 seconds it was up against any class except against other hunters.

In fact, I could careless about the dot part, the 15 second feign death didn’t need to be removed though. They could of just tweaked the dot part.

Instead, they just blanket nerfed with no actual thought.

And that type of development process is why this will continuously keep happening in this game.

I hope you’re trolling because this is all hilarious bait if so

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