I mean we use Resurrection or similar magic all the time, it’s a mundane thing in Azeroth, there is any reason to not use it on big characters like Varian and many others?
And how resurrection actually works in Shadowlands?
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Some places it won’t work. Varian for example was destroyed within Fel and that *may or may not * have consequences on if he actually passed onto the Shadowlands or not.
Demon Hunters at a certain point resurrect into the Twisting Nether rather than die due to their soul changing.
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There’s that one quest in Borean Tundra where you just rez some random NPC, and he just kinda gets up, shrugs, and goes on with his life.
But that quest kinda jars with how the game treats NPC deaths in general.
Basically, they need death to be somewhat permanent, or nothing has much impact.
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Isn’t there also one where you kinda have to gather a bunch of stuff to try saving a Crusader that doesn’t want to die and in the end he dies and the Light takes his soul or something like that?
Bridenbrad’s entire point is that he can’t actually be saved, at least in this life.
It’s designed to hit you in the feels. You don’t actually rez him.
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WoW uses powers of convenience. When it comes to the story, they work when it’s convenient, and then they don’t work when it’s convenient.
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I mean, it’s kinda hard to bring back a body when it was completely vaporized
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It got used on Varian once already(see his short story).
it isn’t mundane. it is a game mechanic first and foremost. It is extremely hard to resurrect the dead.
Necromancy is relatively easy though.
In the storyline, it’s a pretty big deal!
Plenty of druids around that helped fight Sylvy in Gilneas. Greymane could have just ordered one of them to res his son if just anyone could do it.
Like when it happens in the fight against Argus. You’re supposed to be in awe with the titan’s powers.
Wasn’t there a quest in Azshara where you air dropped goblin priests onto dead goblins and they come down and rez for a fee.
“Resurrection” in the lore tends to be more of a “bring people back from the brink of death” sort of healing than actual resurrection. Actual resurrection on normal people seems to be almost entirely a gameplay mechanic, and the actual resurrection we see tends to not be a simple /cast resurrection and generally won’t be possible no matter how skilled of a caster we have at our disposal.
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Can’t really use it on varian as he’s been reduced to powder. Also fel flame destroys souls so there likely isn’t even much to help bring back
That quest was for an employee I believe that was dying of cancer.
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Resurrection within lore isn’t something easily performed, nor performed often. It’s not something to be taken lightly. It’s a game mechanic for the sake of bringing people back from death so you can continue doing the content you’re in. But it’s not something lore friendly, much like the idea of a light wielding void elf, or a void wielding lightforged draenei isn’t. Things sometimes exist for no reason other than for the sake of content or game mechanics.
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For a while res appeared to be an in-game thing and not a lore. There was not really instances people using it in major ways. That changed in BFA. Anduin basically resurrects his whole army.
Inferring from that scene though it was a “special” moment.
So while we can go around returning everyone from the dead. It appears res in the lore may not be so simple as that.
Well, the fact that a lot of classes have mass resurrection begs to differ.
I’d argue that’s a game mechanic, and not a story mechanic.
I don’t think WoW treats death the way Destiny does, where each of your deaths, and Ghost’s resurrections, are actually canonical and a part of life as a Guardian.
Maybe I’m wrong but I’ve always assumed that things like wiping on a boss aren’t canon. We went in, we fought, we prevailed. The fight we won is the canon fight.
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generally the spells to revive people are gameplay mechanics only and reviving is only reserved for the most epic of moments like when Arthas/Argus kills us in the raid fights and Tyrian/Eonar revive us through the power of the Light/Life.
I know if you kill yourself during the DH opening questline when you respawn as a ghost illidan says something like “Ahh you’ve developed an immortal demon soul as I have” or some such. So I guess we can rez demons.
I believe in the dragonblight dungeon from cata theres a scene where Thrall ressurects a dead red drake. So I guess it works on dragons.
I think Cho-Gall almost resurrected Cthun. So I guess it also works on Old Gods, but it takes more power. IDK why nobody could rez Ysharj at any time, but I guess they couldnt because reasons.
Wild Gods I guess cant be rezzed, because they have their own rez setup in the emerald dream, or ardenweald, or Ghanir, or De Other side depending on which version you want to think about. Dragons apparently go to Ghanir too, but they arent Wild Gods, but sometimes are wild gods and also sometimes end up in ardenweald. because reasons.
TLDR rez is complicated.
It’s basically not canon.
True resurrection in the Warcraft Universe is extremely rare. We get resurrection spells for gameplay, but in lore that’s the sort of thing that only happens once in a blue moon when gods are involved.
Also keep in mind that player characters don’t really ever die. We get “near death experiences”. Our souls leave our bodies, we meet the Kyrians and they say “It’s not your time yet” and then we go back. Resurrecting a player character isn’t really resurrection because they aren’t actually dead.