Anxiety about making your own raid group

It isn’t as bad as you think it is! I just cleared the entirety of normal SoD in one sitting with a PUG! All members of which… I invited myself, because no other group would invite me. By the way, I have ZERO leading experience.
And you know what? I didn’t know a single fight! I even said so.
Here’s a tip: Give raid assist to both tanks and keep the group up as a waitlist in case anybody leaves after a fight. I recommend inviting at least one warlock haha.

Overall, if groups won’t invite you, make one yourself! Don’t sweat it; it’s going to be okay! You can do it! I believe in you!

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I’ve always said,

Fake it until you make it.

I did the same thing in s1 to atoc before I gave up on raiding

Mostly the group will sort it self out and allocate groups to locations for certain mechanics

If someone wants to be toxic because you’re not leading the group, just mock them for not knowing the mechanics and kick them even though you don’t actually know the mechanics lmao

“I didn’t realise I needed to hand hold and baby sit gooooooooosh, get a load of this guy, doesn’t know what to do Lollolooloo”

Me: Die to an easy mechanic

Ohhh man lag spike

Shrugs

Lmao

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This was what I did last week and CN was not too bad!
After looking at Sanctum guides though I am much more nervous about (somewhat) leading a group in this raid. Why must there be so many coordinated mechanics D:

I’m sure I’ll try this too in a few days, hopefully I also get lucky :slight_smile:

Great job guys, it’s really great the slime cat is encouraging more people to go outside their comfort zone and realizing that’s really not that bad.

You might even be able to give heroic a crack down the line ? :wink:

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I’m expecting the final 3 bosses to be pretty nasty for a fair few pugs.

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My guild didnt even get denathrius… its a stone cold shame, baby

Actually, they are easy as hell. They are just WAY. TOO. LONG.

Fate dude with pugs can be a mess, even with weak Auras.

Sylvanas is really really long and you need people to not die to walking off chains or eating spikes in earlier phases. They’re super easy things on paper but life finds a way…

Also picking and dropping puddles on final phase can be very important.

We only wiped on Sylvanas twice in the last phase because 2 DPS died tbh.

I like your gumption! Grats!

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Surprisingly very easy to do in WoW. If you just mash your buttons there’s a pretty good chance you’ll be fine.

Admittedly I don’t fully understand every single M+ mechanic out there but I seem to get by.

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I’m hoping I’m that lucky this week. Grats!

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You unlocked the secrets. Eventually, you will get a group that wants to work together…but I can’t stress enough, give your tanks assist. They need to mark, make raid announcements, make groups.

I would pug into groups, but I am lucky and have a guild to get harassed by :wink:

Also, don’t be afraid to kick people out of YOUR raid because they are being “toxic”. You don’t need that. If they are a high DPS, and complaining, more than likely they are standing in crap and not doing mechanics cuz “lol it’s only normal bro”…boot’em, they can make their own group!

edit for additional thoughts

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The exact reasons I don’t pug, because you don’t know the person or the excuses they will make that will bring your group down.

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Nope, I’d rather suffer through LFR than form a raid on my own no matter how easy normal is. Thats how bad my anxiety is. I’d rather see WoW lose all its casual base so it closes down so Blizzard will make a single player WoW instead of sticking with an MMO.

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grats on your clear.

raid forming is more work than most players will ever put into a social structure, in game or irl.

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Already almost 1 million unique characters have completed M+ runs in Season 4 in NA / EU alone.

The argument that solo players are this silent majority just isn’t backed up by any numbers. I’d argue the dungeon players are the ones really keeping the lights on at Blizzard.

If the game was really mostly solo casuals they would create more content tailored to them, but weirdly - the dozens of analysts that work on WoW missed this. Hmmmmmm.

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Congrats!!

Never said we were the majority, no way to know for sure since wow doesnt publicize their numbers. We cant be sure how many of those mythic plus characters are on single accts or secondary accounts which a lot of serious players do have even today. But I guarantee each sub loss hurts blizz much like any other mmo company. The less subs, the less they can spend to make content and eventually they would have to shut down.

If they ever hit that critical point where they have to actually close down WoW, I would cheer because maybe they will use the IP and make games that everyone can enjoy, particularly people in it for the story (aka casuals) and not trying to be some part of the elite tier of the population. I would pay good money for a single player WoW game instead of subbing to the mmo because I have no other choice to soak in WoW lore.

TIL people that do M+2s and Normal raids are elitists. WoW is still the top if not, top 2 MMOs in terms of sub counts.

Blizzard has the data on its playerbase. If they are tailoring the game more toward some subset of the population it’s only because their data shows it as being the best use of development time.

Open world solo only never grouping players are a tiny minority of the playerbase. If we lose those people to make way for new players, like myself, then good riddance.