Anti-RDF players had 3 years to play AND still have Classic Era. You missed the boat

These are the people who don’t want RDF…they’re insufferable and if the game doesn’t force us to communicate with them, we would never do it. That’s what they’re afraid of.

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I think what amuses me most is he insists I’m in alt when I have over 1k more posts on this character than he does on his

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Oh look, personal insults. We know who has no argument now!

Okdude…you were literally just insulting the character he’s posting on and not his argument. You don’t have any arguments whatsoever and you’re just proving my point.

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Pointing out an observation isnt an insult. But again, thanks for proving my point.

Says the guy trying to spin things to fit their own narrative.

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Blizzard mentioned wanting it in at the start of the expansion, but they didn’t have it working until 3.3.

And also

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ooo ive angered the alt-hive mind. They’ve given up any sort of discussion in favor of attack!

I’m going to quote the OG devs on this one (thank you Manfighting):

https //www usgamer net/articles/how-world-of-warcraft-was-made-the-inside-story

"In an effort to make the game more streamlined and player-friendly, Blizzard introduced the Looking for Group tool in Burning Crusade. In Vanilla or Classic World of Warcraft, players had to talk in a unique Looking for Group chat channel to find other player looking to run the same dungeon. Once you found a full party, which could take anywhere from minutes to hours, then you had to summon the entire party. This involved a lot of walking, riding, flying, and teleporting.

The Looking for Group tool was an attempt at a push-button fix for the problem. The idea was to make it dead simple to group up and run an instance.

“If you truly want to get back to the genesis of Dungeon Finder, it probably goes all the way back to Warcraft 3. When we moved from Starcraft to Warcraft 3, one of the big innovations that we did in Warcraft 3 was add automated matchmaking,” says Pardo. “I was certainly always passionate about the idea of could we just take the Warcraft 3 methodology? Can we get it down to a single button; you press a button and you’re instantly magically in a group that’s well-formed.”"

The devs wanted it from the start and couldn’t quite get it right. It is not a catch up feature and you won’t see any of the devs who brought this to the game saying anything like that. It was a QOL feature and they loved it all along.

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They didn’t just want it from the start of Wrath, they wanted it from the start of Vanilla:

“To be completely honest, [the Looking For Group tool] is a feature I wanted in the game when we launched the game. I was really unhappy when we didn’t have it when we first shipped, so it’s been 5 years coming. Maybe it wasn’t the number one thing I wanted in, but it’s definitely one of the top 5 things that I wanted in the game. It’s actually our third try at a proper LFG tool, and this one gets it right. With the Meeting Stones, we didn’t put enough attention into it, we just tried to jam it in, and people didn’t use it. The second tool, it ended up being compromised feature – we tried to cater to too many different audiences.”

–Rob Pardo, lead designer of WoW

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it was in for 40% of the content of the xpac. If they want to add RDF with ICC so be it but this hyperbolic nonsense about “RDF is Wrath” just isn’t true.

Once again, completely irrelevant to the point being made (that RDF was added much closer to the middle of the expansion, not the end)

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LOL the article you linked is from 2022 and is using quotes from an article in 2008. Read the entire portion from actual interview. Rob Pardo in Eurogamer (eurogamer net/blizzards-rob-pardo-interview). Yes Rob wanted it from the start but more of the developers didn’t. He even says that many of the developers thought the RDF was a bad idea.

This whole thing has been shot down a billion times. One dev, read ONE, wanted it from the start and many others did not, even when it was implemented.

The middle of the expansion would have been ToC. It was not in at that point.

Source please. I’ve read the article and never saw this.

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Its literally in the article, not sure what to tell you.

Edit: Just reread the article, the wording was “many of my colleagues had reservations and still did at launch”.

The middle of the expansion was half a month before ICC released

Wrath of the Lich King lasted about 2 years and 1 month. Patch 3.3 launched about 1 year and 1 month after the expansion itself launched. If Patch 3.3 had been released just 2 weeks earlier it would have been right dead center of the expansion

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You are either being intentionally obtuse or willfully ignorant. Regardless RDF was put in during the 4th of 5 content patches. Until ICC is launched without RDF it tracks. Or I suppose we could just wait the exact number of days from launch until RDF was introduced but that would probably put us in Classic Cata.

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I still can’t find it. Source of the article you’re getting this from please.

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I could say the same of you, but I’m not going to devolve into insults just because I disagree with you. That’s an anti-RDF tactic

Implying that patch 3.3 was the “end” of the expansion despite lasting nearly half the length of the entire expansion itself devalues the patch itself and the impact it had on the game. Despite being a year-long content drought, WoW still saw a steady increase in subscription numbers after the entire year prior had stagnated in numbers, eventually reaching and maintaining the highest number of active players the game had seen before, and has seen since, maintaining that count (again, through a content drought) until Cataclysm was already released and going on before numbers started dropping, well after RDF had already been established

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