Anti-monarch Forsaken

The anti-monarch mentality is understandable. In life the royalty failed its people, and the prince became the most powerful evil born of this world. In unlife the queen had in time come to abandon her people, and this badly hurt their standing among their allies. Now, the last of the line has recently come into the undead state of existence, but she has little common experience along side those she might lead.

Those who take this stance might be more inclined towards an elected leader. Maybe even term limits placed on the leader. They might even consider a constitutional monarchy with their elected choice. One thing is for sure, they will not agree to the old ways of governance.

Would this be better for the Forsaken? Will there be negative effects? What is your take?

Whoops I suggested the constitutional monarchy on the other Forsaken thread.

Ah well. Stance remains similar. Donā€™t want in game elections, the IRL ones make everybody tense enough as it is :stuck_out_tongue:

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Do you hear the people sing, singing the songs of angry men.

ques British marching song as war is declared on the Forsaken to reinstall their monarch for their own good

I think itā€™d be interesting for them to essentially invent representative democracy via a new Desolate Council.

Theyā€™ve had nothing but bad luck with monarchs. Both of birthright and impromptu goth coronation. So I really donā€™t see why theyā€™d be interested in trying that a third time.

Iā€™d have the Desolate Council have 4 Governors with representatives for RAS, the Deathstalker/guard, the Cult of the Forgotten Shadow and the general citizenry.

Ideally Iā€™d make them Calder Gray, Commander Belmont, a now properly undead Natalie Seline and Lilian Voss.

Iā€™d also have the Forsaken Heritage quest be the ā€˜electionā€™. In a similar vein to the Vulpera unlock quest Iā€™d have you running around, suring up votes from the aforementioned voting blocs by solving some of their problems.

This would also serve as a way to update us on the status of a lot of Forsaken territory.

Like say for the CotFS, maybe you help complete construction on their first cathedral in Andorhal.

Then for the Deathstalkers youā€™ve to free some captured by the Bloodfang in Silverpine real quiet like as to not start an international incident.

Perhaps for RAS you break into Scholomance to steal books from the Krastinovians on how to build a better abomination.

And so on.

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I think a fifth one should be put in for voting purposes.

Iā€™ve always loved the idea in general for updating the world without waiting for expansions.

Anti-monarch Forsaken is a bit iffy seeing how their only experience outside of a functioning monarchy was a genocidal, authoritarian dictatorship that used and abused the Forsaken as disposable ā€œarrowsā€ in an increasingly convoluted and badly written way.

Thereā€™s a reason the English re-established the monarchy after Cromwell. One, he sucked hard. And two, England had centuries of monarchical tradition to fall back to. The Forsaken are in the process of falling back to their established monarchy. Because Sylvanas sucked that hard for them, and everyone else too.

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So, you are saying that even though Sylvanas was queen it was just a dictatorship and not an actual Monarchy. Forsaken confusing the two might take an anti-monarchist view, but they would actually be anti-dictatorship.

Even though Calia is the 5th member of the council, i think she will eventually become an elected monarch and the other 4 council members be sort of like voting members which keep her executive powers in check.

You almost had it exact with the other 4 council members. The only alteration is that instead of a cult of Forgotten Shadows representative we got a dark ranger representative. The Elves and any others raised at the dark shore are really the 3rd generation of Forsaken.

I can understand this as well. Caliaā€™s lack of experience though troubling, is through no fault of her own. She would have never ascended the throne even if she wasnā€™t murdered by the Scourge. She would have probably been married off to some duke or something. She also doesnā€™t have decades of unlife like the rest of the Forsaken.

I agree though that a constitutional monarchy would be the best course if they want to install her as a queen.

ā€¦this was supposed to be in the other thread. Didnā€™t realize it was a separate topic. >.<

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