How much of a difference would upgrading to something like Ryzen 5 3600, B450 MB, gtx1650, 16G ddr4, installing wow on m.2 ssd OR sata ssd be compared to my existing PC?
Current config:
monitor 27" 144Hz 1080p
CPU i5 2500k
MB ASUS p8p67 pro
RAM ddr3 1600…2x4G
GPU GTX 1050
1T HDD (game on HDD)
120G SSD Samsung 840
current in game setting are either low or medium.
The load screen is slow sometimes and it takes a little time to ‘render’ all the graphics after zoning/heathing
Initially I was thinking of upgrading i5 3770k using existing MB, increase the RAM to 32G and install WOW on the SSD
Wow is pretty heavily cpu bound in areas that tend to dip frames - a cpu upgrade to a 3600 would be pretty noticable.
As gmfar as the Ivy Bridge cpu, I wouldn’t spend more money on that platform, and more than 16gb for gaming isn’t really needed.
M.2 nvme (they also have sata m.2) for games isn’t really significantly faster for gaming than normal sata, but prices for nvme qlc drives make them still more worthwhile.
New GPUs are coming out, and many people will be upgrading their gtx 1080, 1080 ti, and 2000 series gpus soon.
You may be better off waiting for the new cards to come out and pick up a second hand older card.
A 1080 ti for $200 would be a pretty good bargain.
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Guess the cheapest option is wait for 2nd hand GTX1080Ti
Best would be to wait and upgrade to Ryzen 5 3600?
That was a made up number btw, but the new 3070 allegedly has 2080ti performance for $499.
Hoping 1080ti or 1080 will drop to the $200 level, maybe even 2070 around there too
Me and you haven’t disagreed much in the short time I been here… But I am disagreeing here.
I don’t think OP should hope to get a 1080 or ti 200. I would suggest him to save up the extra and splurge on the 3070. This late in the cycle, they are likely to start patching pascals into obscurity, and a 3070 will be a relevant component for probably the next 5 to 7years.
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You may be right - I’m just looking at second hand deals.
Perhaps used 2000 series is better - they will likely to be taking a huge hit to the secondhand market.
I guess I’m just too used to my AMD fine wine cards lol
OP maybe just get a 5600xt they’re great deals for the performance and the release of the 3000 series won’t have an impact on its price segment.
I hesitate to ever recommend the 3300x because it’s basically a unicorn. I’ve never actually seen it in stock.
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AMD has done a poor job keeping the 3300x and 1600AF in stock. If they brought the 3500x to the states it will help alleviate some of the supply shortages as well.
3600 prices are rising, too. Possibly due to the impending launch of the 4000 series.
Used to be $175 forever, now back to $199 or just OOS.
I’m at the point to possibly recommend the i5-10400 which is less expensive, performs better in most games (with 3200mhz+ memory anyway), and is readily available. For people not looking to upgrade in a few years, anyway.
You can get an i5-10400f for $162 right now, and cheap Z490s can be had for around $120.
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For me personally, I would go intel i3 and z490 because the higher intel CPUs scale better at gaming then the higher Ryzen CPUs
For around $300 you can either get a EOL 9700k for $299 or an i5-10600k for $279-299.
It’s hard to say which one I’d pick, and athough I dislike the business concept of the 9700k, I would tend to favor it.
Some games will be able to leverage hyperthreading, but some actually perform worse. None will complain about having 2 more physical cores (at 8 max, anyway).
Conventional wisdom says HT gives up to 25% performance via efficiency if the software can use it, so 6x1.25 ~= 7.5 cores vs the 9700k’s 8.
And then there’s the 3700x…which is back up to $290. At one point it was as low as $259. That was an amazing deal.
As you go up in price it just always seems to be “just a little more” until you’re double at where you started.
Nvidia says there won’t be much a difference between PCIE3 and 4 for their new cards, but know knows. With their new RTX I/O it may well be that AMD systems have the upper hand.
The 9700k typically scores around 2-5% higher then the 8700k. Plus OC real cores just scream through everything. I got my 9700k for $279 a year ago so I can’t complain.
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I think the upperhand will be in AMD’s ability to better leverage any gains from PCIe 4. Not sure what that might look like, but given how strongly they presented it with the MoBo’s for the Zen 2’s, I have to assume that it was for something they were looking ahead to.
Or, to look at it another: AMD simultaeneously was working on RDNA 2 while implementing PCIe4. the technical side of me says there must be something at play. Heck, maybe it isn’t RDNA2 and they kind of jumped the gun like Nvidia did with RTX - Turing… Maybe it is RDNA3 or related to Zen3… It wouldn’t make business sense to try and mainstream something like PCIe4 so soon without having a reason, given AMD’s actual finances.
Again, it reminds me of Apple taking the leap on moving to emerging tech/coding. HTML5 was barely in its spring when Apple decided to ditch flash… But it was the right decision and the early investment paid dividends.
I would probably skip 10th gen Intel in light of the shift towards leveraging PCI bus and storage for gaming.
4th gen might be what convinces me to upgrade.
I would be curious if/when Intel will decide to start investing and developing into PCIe4. AMD got the drop on them, and they have a chance to cement a lead, but Intel has resources that AMD doesn’t and that does give them an advantage if they don’t drag their feet.
Won’t be 10th gen, at least not from what we have seen… Will wait for rocket lake (is that the next one?) and see what they do.
Going back to my post. Without any official word from AMD or affiliates, it is hard to get hype for what they might have. If they come out swinging against Nvidia 30 series, then it will be whiplash… If they don’t, I think the sting will be worse.
This is Radeon’s sink or swim moment imo. Both them and Nvidia are working with non-beta technology now (RTX/tensor, and RDNA respectively). We have seen what Nvidia is swinging this time around, and swing they did. Can AMD punch back?
ok, thats good to know about the SSD. I actually do have a spare 120G SSD which I ‘copy & paste’ my HDD WOW folder to.
Only problem, the launcher keeps defaulting back to HDD version of WOW.
I ‘change’ it and it registers but on the next startup, its back to HDD folder.
I’ll take a look at the gtx1660 Super and i5-10400 prices, in no rush to upgrade yet.