That’s not what the questline says.
Not even close.
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It was supposed to feel like one. We’re happy the message has been received.
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Or the Alliance has changed. We have had warlocks, death knight, worgens, demon hunters, dark iron, void elved join our ranks.
Yes, there are still Alliance who are abit racist(looking at you human ambassador to the Allied races) but most in the Alliance have adapted and changed.
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This is kind of hilarious.
Orcs: “WHY ARE YOU SUCH XENOPHOBES?!”
Humans: “You’re literally trying to kill me right now, as we’re talking!”
Trolls: “Right? They’re all awful!”
Night Elf: “Your people have been murdering and slaving since the dawn of time!”
Forsaken: “Its true. They’re so awful we named ourselves after it.”
Dwarf: “You literally slaughtered an entire army of our soldiers who allied with you after you were done with them!”
Blood Elves: “Don’t talk to us about slaughter! The Alliance is the reason Quel’Thalas fell during the Third War!”
Gnomes: “That doesn’t even make sense in the context of this conversation! We’re talking about xenophobes, and you guys were the worst, just hiding in your forests until you couldn’t!”
Tauren: “Well, what’s the Alliance’s excuse towards us, huh? They just started slaughtering us because we were aiding our allies. They judge off of appearances and slaughter indiscriminately.”
Draenei: “Seriously? My people look like Archimonde the tree-F***er and they were fine with us.”
Orc: “STOP BEING XENOPHOBES AND LET ME KILL YOU ALREADY!”
Goblin: “War is great for business.”
Pandaren: “Can I get some ale and snacks?”
Dracthyr: “Sorry, I fell asleep. What did I miss?”
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I mean, forsaken willingly followed her vs follow him or die so uh…?
Feels like an insult to anyone who gives a damn about Warcraft lore.
I’m genuinely debating between changing factions or quitting, it’s that dumb of a change.
Thousands upon thousands of years committing genocide at a galactic scale? It’s cool, no worries, you feel bad about it now, come on in!
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No you’re not. You’re being hyperbolic.
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The forsaken didn’t have velen and tirion to vouch for them…
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Let’s all be honest. 
it’s about the decay smell.
The crimes we can get over… but fabreeze is getting expensive now a days.
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No, they’re red and incredibly hot. Therefore, any misgivings are forgiven.
Undead just don’t have sex appeal.
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This is not true. First off we are never told if they reached the Alliance, it is hinted that they did, but that they were killed the moment they were spotted. If we are to go by Sylvanas thoughts on it which is the only info we have about it.
The scarlets didn’t even exist yet either at the time when they sent the envoy so it can’t have been them.
This used to be the case back during the early days, but it’s something that’s changed since roughly wotlk. Still have some bad apples though.
Remember the dwarves that killed off a tauren tribe living on their ancestral sacred lands, and the dwarves called them animals, all because they wished to dig there because of potential artifacts and that it was a good place for a military outpost.
How the dwarves had the player kill off local frostmane trolls to cull them as they were getting annoying.
Or how they wanted to claim alterac valley for their own, trying to dislocate those already living there, due to the resources and that it may hold titan artifacts.
How Maiev bragged about making races (in the plural) extinct, or that one nelf that wanted to eradicate trolls in vanilla for even daring to suggest that nelves came originally from them.
These are just some examples.
While the Horde list of sins is long, it’s the Alliance that wins in actual xenophobia.
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nope it was all the jailers plan remember nobody has any agency in wow every bad guy has to be controlled by some other force. the game is now made for disney fem boy furrys.
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I love that this post has nothing but a blue tide of likes.
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Yes, which implies they were killed.
It is hinted by that from the Horde side. The Horde assumes that’s what happens because they never came back. The Alliance doesn’t know anything about any Forsaken diplomats because they never reached the Alliance.
You contradicted yourself immediately. How can we know that we were never told if they reached the Alliance, but it also be hinted that the Alliance killed the Forsaken on the spot? Which is it?
What are you talking about? Yes they did.
Horde hates Alliance races for no real reason.
I don’t see how the Alliance is being xenophobic when the Alliance has werewolves, void entities, and demons in it now. While you’re talking about things dwarves were doing in Vanilla, at that same juncture Orcs were sacking Night elf outposts literally just for fun and Forsaken were poisoning druids and twisting their spirits while they slept. Both sides were doing bad things, Alliance didn’t win on xenophobia back then.
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The orcs were a race of shamans who become literal slaves to world ending demons. When they broke free they took in every struggling race they encountered, saving trolls from naga and tauren from extinction.
The alliance being unable to set aside differences led to a plague consuming almost half of the eastern kingdoms and high elves losing like 90% of their magic buddies.
They really are the worst faction
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Technically Sylvanas didn’t commit any genocides at the time of Warcraft 3.
In Before The Storm, when Anduin sends a letter to Sylvanas proposing The Gathering, he acknowledges that the Alliance rejected the Forsaken due to them not understanding (at the time) that they were not part of the scourge.
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Mate, how is it a contradiction to say that we don’t know if they did it or not, but that we have a single perspective about it, and that’s Sylvanas, we are never told if the Alliance know about it or not, just that the forsaken never heard from them again. And that person believes that they were killed by Alliance guards the moment they were spotted. This makes it so it’s not set in stone, not definite, the only thing we know is that we don’t know what happened, but at least one person who’s the leader of the forsaken believes they did. Which is a hint.
The crusade was officially formed after the forsaken were already a thing and in control of the capital. And before that, the would-be crusade was focused fighting to retake Andorhal and Stratholme. Either way, there are no hints or sources that would imply that the crusade (or would be crusade) was responsible for the death of the diplomats.
Ah, I had forgotten this, well that settles it then, the Alliance very well knew of the forsaken outreach and “rejected it”.
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Not really. They kept sending Thassarian on suicide missions at the start of Wrath but he just kept coming back, for example.
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