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Somebody commenting on the Lost Honor cinematic said, “You know. It feels a little unfair that you’ve got these two very powerful men that are gonna go after Sylvanas.” My response was, “Oh, clearly you don’t understand Sylvanas, because I would not use the word ‘unfair…’ but it’s gonna be fun.”
Here we go. Sylvanas worthy adversary confirmed.
Did they say worthy adversary in the interview, or is that just what Wowhead said?
… ultimately it doesn’t matter a ton, because “worthy adversary” just means against Saurfang and Anduin.
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Am I the only one that looks at these characters for who they are and considers their gender barely an afterthought? In that interview, they make a huge deal out of their Warbringers being all female, and that never occurred to me until they brought it up.
To me, Warbringers covered the stories of three interesting characters, all of which just so happened to be female. I never thought more about it. Isn’t that how female characters are supposed to be written in the first place? You write an amazing character, then you make them female. Being a gender shouldn’t be a prime character trait.
Blizzard still doesn’t seem to get that.
The interview seems to have a sex-centered bent, primarily talking about the prominence of female characters in BFA.
They didn’t call Sylvanas a worthy-adversary verbatim, but the response suggests that their will be not just a conflict - but a pretty “fun” (re: excessively violent) conflict.
My big takeaway from this is that the developers make the incoming story sound almost exactly like the Garrosh arch, but it’s supposed to have a different ending. Possibly one where Sylvanas actually wins, at least for a time.
Nothing in this story can be fun.
It feels like there’s someone trying to push a gender agenda, and Terran is trying to rope it in by just saying that they happen to all be women by coincidence, not intent.
I appreciate him.
No, i personally never cared at all about their gender, i never once i paused to think “damn, this feminist agenda really sucks”
when in fact and by coincidence, my fav characters are female and not because for boobs or something like that, but because i respect characters for what they are. nothing more and nothing less.
the fact that all warbringers are female just seem to be a coincidence because that is a story that it makes sense that it has to be told now.
and if blizzard feels like they need to bring more females characters just go for it,in fact, i think that we need as many new characters as we can find regardless of gender.
i mean, did someone noticed that the harbringers from legion were all males? no, because it was natural, just like now.
Appropriate representation is obviously important, but I think a lot of people go about it the wrong way.
It should always be a great character, that just so happens to be whatever you’re trying to represent. The second you place the representation center stage, it loses its impact. The point is to normalize females being prominent and stalwart leaders. Making a huge point that they’re female doesn’t do that.
It gives me such a headache - “No, Sylvanas won’t be like Garrosh” they say, but then it looks like a Garrosh, talks like a Garrosh, walks like a Garrosh…
Hold on, now.
Garrosh walked like a big dumb ape.
Sylvanas walks with super villain chic. She doesn’t just walk, she swaggers.
00-12 secs, nuff said.
To be fair, both Lydia and Terran were saying exactly that. That they didn’t intend for Warbringers to be an all-female thing, it just worked out that way given the characters and storylines involved. It’s the interviewer who kept bringing up the “STRONK WAMEN!!” thing. I think they got annoyed by it, because by the last question they explicitly said writing WoW’s story based on percentage of gender exposure would be a bad thing for the game. I’m betting the interviewer noticed since she immediately changed the topic after that.
It seems Blizzard thinks Sylvanas leading the Horde in a campaign to slay the living, raise their corpses and cover the land in darkness would make her an inspiration to women everywhere. Who are we to disagree?
I mean, apparently she’s already proud of being the first female Warchief - a position that has never discriminated against gender, and she only attained due to the dying hallucinations of her male predecessor.
I don’t consider myself politically correct, but I did notice a few things:
(Notice, mind you. Not get upset about)
All 3 Warbringers were female.
Just today I had a thought: Of all the women to be the leader of a Playable Faction = 100% have been psycho villains.
Azshara, Jaina, and Sylvanas are dominated by…curious… relationships with males.
And I agree that I have some uncomfortable feelings about all this.
It is as if only a Female who is a vicious banshee will ever rise to equality of males, and then immediately have ALL the males unite against her.
Yes and no, the Horde Warchief position used to discriminate against race…because it killed anyone else it came into contact with, then Vol’jin becomes the first Troll Warchief for what little time that lasted, and finally we get Sylvanas who is definitely not mainstream Horde. The Forsaken are proud of her, and she’s proud of herself as a woman in a usually male dominated position.
A position that could be challenged at any time, but thusfar has not. I give that a pass all things considered.
Mayla? Thalyssra? Aysa? Geya’rah? Tyrande? Moira? Alleria?
Doesn’t matter if it’s done correctly or incorrectly, when something happens that is usually out of the ordinary and is also attached to a current political issue, people are going to notice, and many will even discuss it. Sometimes in favor, or sometimes against it. Those that are unattached to the issue and accustomed to what happened might not notice though.
God I hope Mayla doesn’t get with Baine, she can do better then this.
Basik Kampfire has been crackling songs through your tent flap every night for days now, go to him.