Enhance Shaman DW with 2 pieces off Raid BiS - I only need the BFD 6 str/6stam ring and another Chipped Bite of Serra’kis to replace my Vampiric Boot Knife. Self buffed I run around with 1780hp.
I run DW rune on chest for extra hit and OH white damage, Lava Lash on Gloves for more sources of damage, path of earth on pants for 30% more HP, dual shocks, 6% less likely to be crit, 10% less damage recieved - which somehow Hunter can match and even surpass.
I walk around in 370gs gear, if Im up against a geared Hunter and get the jump on him and he’s not dumb enough to swap to aspect of the monkey - its an auto-lose. This is before they are going to add scattershot and feign death auto-trap.
The Hunter will outdps me with Hunter pet, auto and flanking strike. I will be in melee range the entire time, and I will still lose.
Im not sure if it has to do with how insane lots of agi is this early in for dodge or not but - will have almost the exact same gear on. If my bonus chest rune 10% chance to hit with melee weapons is a PVE only aspect and doesnt negate monkeys dodge chance - I dont think it does, which would mean the extra hit is basically pointless in PVP outside of offhand white damage/landing lava lash and later stormstrike.
Even in original classic, I would normally win such an encounter with earthbind and frost shock, but Blizzard decides to make a range class do more damage in melee range than a pure melee class.
To be fair, assuming pets won’t scale super hard, hunters shouldn’t be quite as obnoxious in phase 2 and beyond. There’s so much we don’t know when it comes to runes, though.
I can’t imagine a more worse outcome then getting scattershot+trapped and getting FD trapped. Shamans don’t have any kit to deal with this, outside of maybe Tidal charm or farming Magic Candles to deny their aspect of cheetah. Tidal will be overcamped and If Hunters continue to out melee geared DW Tank Shamans with BiS gear, it’s only going to get worse if they can get distance or a combat reset and easily stay out of shock distance.
Even Stormstrike was a joke to the point Enhancement Shamans don’t even use it while leveling due to the insane mana cost and was only really worth using when they got BiS gear. I fear by the time next phase runes are released this will be more of the same.
Why is it always the ones that don’t even know their own class that come to the forums to complain about Hunters. Oh that’s right, because they don’t even know how to play their own class lol.
SoD has really attracted the biggest dingbats I’ve ever seen. Maybe go watch a guide on how to pvp instead of sooking for nerfs on the forums.
playing enhance without windfury seems a bit silly to me. and dual wield? it’s just wrong. this is a lvl 40 spec. just play shield spec till you have more tools. asking for lvl25 balance at this point is pointless.
Shamans just blow. People try to defend it but in pvp your free kills. Your a good pve tank! Congrats! Im hoping they allow paladins on horde side because theyre just way better. That way i can permanently delete my shaman. Ive been fighting with blizz about shams since 2004. They dont care so it stays F tier.
It’s been amusing as a boomkin to regularly delete hunter fotm rerollers. All I have to get is one hibernate and it’s over. If I can’t get hibernate, then nature’s grasp will cc the pet. Then it’s basically not even a fair fight for these poor hunters.
I have literally every single class horde side (8) in vanilla to 60, all classes in TBC to 70 (9), all classes in Wrath to 80 (10).
Im high parsing on all of them. PVP ranked on all of them. It literal doesnt change the fact if im beating on a Hunter with frost shocks, flame shocks, earth shocks, searing totem, earthbind within melee range for the entirety of a PVP encounter that Hunters both take less danage than I do and out DPS me in melee. This shouldn’t be a thing.
This fight was a joke in original classic because their melee damage was a joke, it should be even easier now with Shaman tank runes, but Hunters and Paladins get the love from the devs and Shamans are the bastard children. The user suggestion above to go shield and shield rune above was actually a good one - to rely on my shocks and bonus armor procs to try to edge my way to a win (which Shaman with situational advantage shouldnt have to do). The rest of the comments were basically demonstrating reddit user level of intelligence.
P.S. Chipped Bite is Shaman BiS, not sure why the Rogue is frustrated an enhance shaman is rolling on a 23.3dps weapon if its literal BiS.
lvl 25 pvp complains about hunter. and people call us hun*ards.
how do people not understand classic is not balanced, SoD will not be balanced and hunters have and will be the kings of low lvl PvP in EVERY VERSION of WoW.