We shouldve just blighted Stormwind too. Maybe a mix of a manabomb and the blight. I wonder what that would do to those big corridors of Ironforge. Mhmm. Oh yeah its a war. You already tried to take retribution by attacking Undercity. You already killed the Zandalari King.
BfA is not over yet though, Ill stand by Sylvanas till the bitter end, our fight is not over yet.
Truth right there.
My vote right now is for Queen Talanji. She was born to rule and has proven herself already. Horde lands can become a protectorate of the Zandalari Empire.
Good god lad, sitting through this mans post felt like punishment enough. Real-time weeks of that would make me wanna icecrown Sylvanas myself
They alternate for gameplay purposes, but in canon one side wins.
I can tell you right now, Princess T has zero chance of being warchief.
All that being said, if Sylvanas is removed from the Horde, that will literally remove the only character on the Horde side that realistically has any real power and can challenge anyone on the Alliance side.
You don’t get to say this is a Horde problem in the same breath that you say that the Horde can’t be blamed for Sylvanas. The two are either/or. Either Sylvanas is the Horde and we blame the Horde, or anything that happens to her is not a Horde consequence.
You can’t have your guilt-free cake and eat it too.
I don’t blame the Horde for one leader. I blame the Horde for creating an environment in which an equal percentage of their recent leaders have been megalomaniacal. It’s clear, to me, that the Horde doesn’t work.
Ignorance of your part in the greater evil that you continue to brew is no longer an excuse. Your methods, culture, and environment have bred horrific and violent leaders. I have no reason to believe that the Horde itself is not, at this point, a perfectly oiled machine pumping out a tide of evil.
She would not be Warchief, she would be Queen. It’s more likely than you think.
So 99% unrealistic expectations thats your own falt for getting upset. Thats like me saying i wanna see goofy in the new spiderman movie since he’s my favorite Disney character or it will be a garbage movie
The Horde wasn’t this way under Thrall or Vol’jin’s leadership though. You’re only acknowledging the bad without understanding that we don’t get much of a choice in it from the writing perspective. We have absolutely zero control over what goes on. It’s not the Horde / the player’s fault when good leaders are ousted / removed for no reason other than shock value.
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Well, it isn’t like Teldrassil comes off an assembly line unlike Hordes Warchiefs.
Blizzard is against fun. Fun shall be removed.
That wasn’t Sylvanas. That was Nomi. The Night Elves invited him to cook them a meal, and well, we all know how Nomi’s cooking turned out. Sylvanas only had to finish off what Nomi started.
#GarroshDidNothingWrong
Plus, MoP was a fun expansion.
And just look at your avatar. Still have a mask on and laughing away xD
It is kinda funny. The Alliance likes to call on the Horde, and blame the Horde when it comes to the burning of Teldrassil, but what they forget is it was actually Genn who started the war when he attacked Sylvanas. Stormheim story tells it well.
Mind you, most of the Alliance these days are just people who hang around Goldshire Inn on Moon Guard having a good time. This war stinks, so why should all of us take part in it?
Undead =/= All of the Horde!
LOL! What?! So, essentially destroy the faction, and with how absolutely Hero Centric this game is being written these days … doom it and its playerbase to total irrelevance from here on out (and unlike the Alliance, the Horde doesn’t lose B or C rank characters; we lose our A and B listers and Blizz has an atrocious track record of building up replacements for us).
Players on this forum do understand that punishing the Horde FACTION is also punishing the Horde PLAYERBASE for what the writers themselves force the FACTION to do right? There is only so much you can really get away with in regards to this topic (especially if that risks further Legion style expansions where the every Horde player was a side-kick in what was supposed to be their own story for two years). That was not the best experience…
Sylvanas is likely gone, she wont be part of the Horde by the end of this expansion (and I suspect it will be revealed that the entire war and tree burning was an extension of her “True Objectives”; rather than for the Horde). Saurfang has a LOT of parallels with Brox, Doomhammer, and Grom for me to say concretely he wont die by the end of BfA. Vol’jin’s story is up in the air; as is Thrall’s presence going forward; and Nathanos no real signs of self-preservation atm.
Welcome to Sundays forums LOL.
Anybody who’s played this expansion has already suffered enough.
So we’re going to have a trial that ends up not happening because Sylvanas will escape with a rogue bronze-drake and travel into an alternate universe’s past, in which she helps the blood elves stop Arthas before he becomes the Lich King?
Warlords of Azeroth?
I usually try to avoid responding for others but considering how old the post you replied to is, I’ll take the liberty to do so.
I’ve seen that poster around and I think he was being sarcastic on his points as a way to display what Alliance players would accept as the only way “justice would be served”.
Point is, blizz keeps writing themselves into a corner, making the Alliance stronger and more united every xpac, while the Horde has been becoming weaker and weaker since MoP, and so they suddenly remember they really can’t have the Horde deal with the consequences of this and so people thinks this is due to bias when in fact it’s just because the faction it’s playable and simply can’t cease to exist.
Some people simply can’t understand this, and so they complain.
It doesn’t matter whether you have a choice or not. That’s not how the writing works. I understand, I do. The actual players do not like how it’s going, and they wish not to be associated. That’s fine, but it doesn’t change what the story itself is.
I think what you fail to understand is that I’m critiquing the Horde itself as an entity. Not the civilians living in the Crossroads. Not the players behind the keyboards.
I’m saying that the Horde is not a good system. You can’t say “well that’s how it’s being written and we don’t have a choice.” It might be accurate as a player, but how it’s being written is the decider. I don’t believe that Tyrande would actually ignore Azshara and the Eternal Palace, but that’s exactly what she’s going to do in 8.2 (as stated by Blizzard). I don’t like it, but that’s how it is.
You don’t like how the Horde is written, but that’s how it is now. The Horde has had an equal number of villains at it’s head as it has had non-villains. Two hardcore villains, one ultimately neutral and useless leader, and just one who actually sought peace.
The Horde has been written as a machine of violence. If you don’t like that, it’s fine, but that’s how it’s written. You don’t get to say “well it’s not really like that, it’s just how they’re writing it”. If they write it that way, and they’re the ones who actually make the lore, that’s what it is.
What war crimes? War is war and Dead is dead.
The ends always justify the means when the winners are the ones who write history.
I feel extremely confident its 0.000% likely.
I am not upset. My post was a bit of a joke to highlight that people constantly ask for over the top/unrealistic things as forms of punishment.
There are two ways to look at this topic, from a story level … and a meta level. On a story level, the NEs lost an immense amount; and the Horde is responsible for that. Thus, the NEs should be allowed a chance at justice, and the Horde should be punished. On a Meta level however … the NEs have functionally lost very little, and the Horde is primed to lose a ton.
Teldrassil was largely an abandoned Capital City, one that was only really used for NE RP (and one that is still easily accessable through a friendly Time Dragon). The characters lost are at WORST C-Rank (Sira and Summermoon) … and the NE race still has one of the strongest representative lists out of any PC race in this game; they are in no risk of irrelevancy.
The Horde in contrast … through a second round of Villain Batting (and the very real prospect of losing a 4th warchief in 5 expansion) is in FAR rougher shape. We started out with a smaller roster of Heroes, but whenever Blizz punishes us for the actions they force us to take; they rob of us of even more of our A and B list cast (a cast we NEED to have a relevant presence going forward).
Tyrande, Malf, Maiev, Shandris, Jarod … they’re all still here. Sylvanas is absolutely gone. Nathanos (unless he learns quick to put his people’s needs before Sylvie’s) is also likely gone. Saurfang (with all his Brox, Doomhammer, Grom parallels) is at extreme risk. Vol’jin’s path forward is VERY unclear. As is Thrall’s. That doesn’t even get into the already pre-existing HUGE faction power imbalance.
From what it looks like … the next expansion might just be another round of Legion on steroids. With the Villainous Horde players (forever condemned for Teldrassil, an action Blizz forced us to go along with) … paying our monthly sub fee for the rare privilege of experiencing the story of the Heroic Alliance again. We get to be the weak, evil monsters in the real Heroes stories…
you bring sunglass too? im pally i bright like a sunshine