As a dev main, I am honestly just tired of “can you play aug? aug? why aren’t you aug? dev sucks play aug” it’s very demoralizing when I have zero interest in ever touching aug.
It’s a me issue I know, just saddening 
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It’s not a you issue, it’s a perception issue.
And for the content you do, devastation is like a thousand times better for a group than Aug.
I’m doing 20-22s when I pug and no one has had any issue with me playing dev when I feel like it so it’s crazy for people in the keys you’re doing not to realize devastation is literally better lol.
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Join as Dev.
“You aug?”
“No, I’m Dev.”
50-50 shot here, either the group will kick you or they will just go with it. Last night I pretty much got into 6 groups for 24-25s.
First (EB25): Leader called me Aug, despite joining and having a note saying I was dev. I told them I was Dev again and they kicked me. (Checked 40 minutes later, they did not time that key, Vindictive Karma meter +1)
Second (AD24): Joined. Few seconds later, kicked with pretty much nothing said.
Third (EB25): Things were going incredibly well but the Healer Alt F4ed for no reason before the first boss, we continued clearing trash packs hoping it was just a temporary DC but even after clearing five more packs waiting, they didn’t return so we had to abandon ship.
Fourth (EB25): Joined the same dungeon/level key with the tank from run #3. Warlock leader went, “Oh, we need aug” and kicked me. (Checked 40 minutes later, they did not time that key. Vindictive Karma meter +2)
Fifth (BRH24): Actually got into a proper group and we timed it when the only deaths in the entire run were Tank/Healer both dying to a boulder on stairs and the tank dying by insisting on taking a second Smashspite charge in a row, yet managed to recover. Overall group was chill though.
Sixth (TotT25): They memed about me not being Aug, one player mentioning how Aug was a trap, and we make it all the way to the end only for a skip to go poorly and cause a wipe (They pulled the Aquablast goblin pack with the two Swell guys), then wiped on Ozumat because the healer kept getting the beam and wasn’t clearing the floor with it. Players not knowing mechanics in +25 keys? Player issue, not a Dev issue.
Overcoming the perception is rough, though you do need to stick with the good groups that give you the shot, making friends to run with more consistent groups is probably one of the more important things to do when not being a slave to the meta.
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Yeah I’ve gotten up to 21-22 on my dk this season and never thought I’d get that far tbh.
Nothing makes me happier than playing dev lol, it’s a warlock with a healer spec playstyle wise.
Truth be told as a healer (holy pal) main aug isn’t something I really look for till later keys. And even then a great dev pumps enough dps that I won’t cry about it being dev over aug.
From my experience aug is nice but really only a help if the groups not so great, tank or healer are undergreared or your pushing content that needs the buffs to offset
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Idk, Aug only really shines when the group IS great. If your DPS can’t do ~200-250k+ overall on their own (depending on the dungeon), you’re better off playing dev.
All Aug really does is give well-organized groups the ability to make riskier, more aggressive pull decisions (and cushion dicey moments).
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I mean I personally would take a dev over aug any day for HIGH push keys. Aug just helps you not just randomly explode. But there does come a point where the lack of damage is going to cost keys.
Also dev players are way more chill than aug.
(But i still want an aug when I play boomy, big number go brr fun)
Yeah I mean to be fair most Aug players in high keys are fotm rerolls that just press button but don’t actually know/enjoy the spec in my experience.
But yeah, dev definitely speeds it up, but once you get high enough it’s much more risky without perfect play. Timers are so forgiving for the most part this season that staying alive is far more critical if your other two DPS can jam hard enough
Yeah but if you’re pushingt o the level of keys/gameplay where you need that damage, perfect play is already needed. A lot of the augs right now are barely scraping by in those keys without some struggle just because they’re missing damage. They don’t amp it hard enough to really see it. It’s also why it’s unlikely there’ll be an aug comp in MDI, because the top gamers will want the damage.
Dev gamers are based.
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Yeah I mean even with MDI pulls, they’re doing low keys so I’d be pretty surprised to see it too.
Makes no sense because looking at logs on wowhead the top Aug vs Dev their DPS is pretty much the same per boss.
I’d rather play Dev in raid Aug for keys simply because my guild raid pugs so finding new people to buff all the time is not fun.
Dev does just fine in keys heck when I dev the few times in keys I was top DPS. I don’t get the dev hate.
Tbh I’m starting to want to play Dev more as it’s a lot less stress trying to track everything. Dev feels great.
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Aug only does respectable damage when the people they are buffing are blasting really high numbers. In the average team, it’s easier to have one good Dev than to rely on a good Aug having even better players to buff.
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Yeah which is why with pugs lately I want to Dev more now. Guild run it’s Aug but pugs you never know what you’ll actually get xD
If you’re not doing mythic prog and using Aug for the utility (Spatial paradox, breaths on smolderon intermission for example) there’s literally no reason to run it (unless you enjoy it more, then go nuts).
Yeah don’t see mythic raiding happening in current guild. Can’t even get 10 to guild raid. Gotta pug…
Been pugging all expansion… No wonder I’m having depression issues…
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LOL, fair.
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I only care about an Aug if tank needs all they can get to survive big pulls on high high fort keys. Otherwise almost half the utility and strong things people list that augs bring devs also bring lmfao
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Aug is 100% bait in keys +25 and below IMHO. Most augs are carried to that level anyways, and you don’t even need the survivability that they bring at that point.
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Augs are kinda bait in pugs in general I would say. They need a lot more coordination to really shine.
As a new(ish) player interested in Augmentation, will it be difficult to find groups in low keys? Just curious.