Might be hope on my part, but I’m assuming when our time comes it will be a massive overhaul, it has too.
Pretty sure sham is getting deleted. Too many classes now. Has to delete one of them.
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Same with hunters. I would say hunter is in a worse state than shammy at this point.
Ehhh… idk about that.
Your could go to live with the current Hunter hero talents and it would work.
You can’t do that with Shaman.
Blizz mentioned there’s no changes happening to Hunter for launch but there are plans to do so during the expac.
Shamans need it the most right now. I would have said FDK as well but they are currently changing that up a bit.
They been saying this for a very very very very very long time. No changes happened other than a few damage change. Heck they even remove Double Tap from MM hunter replace it with a useless node no one takes and MM damage have been suffering ever since.
The hero talent for hunters are boring and plain just more % buff to our damage a weak dark arrow we fire every 20sec or so with horrible animation and the dark beast we summon… yea they are just some tiny pets they we can’t even tell is there unless you try really hard. Dark ranger feels more like a noob ranger when it comes to hero talent.
Sentinel is still meh it DID have a decent animation but then blizzard change it so not is bad. The tree itself doesn’t give the feeling or being a hero talent is a tiny owl you summon
Pack leader. Don’t even get me started on it. Doesn’t change game play at all is a buff and if you don’t even use a WA you don’t even know you had it. Again more % damage here and there in the hero tree.
All three hero doesn’t inspire anything. Just % damage buff over % damage buff nothing more.
I hope that next week is our week. We need some changes. at least add 1 more talent for us to pretend u worked on something XD
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I think it’s coming, they nearly done with Warlock, Mage, Monk, Druid, Priest and Paladin.
They started on Death Knights I’m sure the remaining classes will be next in line for changes. They have to be.
I’m hopeful, it also be amazing whenever Shaman changes happen they include new visuals too, Ascendance I’m looking at you 
. But I’m sure they are “cooking”. They have to be, there’s no way in hell our class trees/Spec trees will be like this when TWW releases. Let’s just hope we don’t come out raw or burnt.
The sheer amount of pruning and improvements/QoL they added to other classes will most definitely hit Shaman, it’s just a matter of when.
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Rework of old totem too pls
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I really hope your optimism isn’t misplaced.
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Even though it’s seems very bleak currently it’s safe to say changes are on their way.
Listen I’m just as frustrated as everyone else, but I don’t think adding more fuel to this fire or inferno really is going to make things happen quicker.
I honestly do hope things come sooner then later, feedback is important and works wonders, Warlocks are looking incredible with the changes based on feedback. Seriously I’m praying we get just as much refinement and attention.
Just to me the fire is hot enough, I’m sure they are aware, it’s not hard to see us Shamans are craving for some changes.
We do need a lot more than other classes really, I think this is why it’s taking longer.
I’n short, stay strong my Shaman Brothers and Sisters our time will come…
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i stopped believing in blizz when they openly rejected our preferred shadowlands talents.
DRE + PW over CH + VT?
clownassery.
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My main is a warlock and my main alt and current favorite character is an ele shaman. The Destro rework (from a PvP perspective) looks incredibly good. A lot of thought and work has clearly gone into it, and I’m very excited to see how it evolves as we get closer to TWW.
I have been extremely disappointed at not only the lack of progress, but the dearth of communication so far with shaman. Am I really just slinging spaghetti and meatballs for another two years on my ele? It’s a fun playstyle, and very effective in RSS, but it would be nice to shoot a lightning bolt again at some point.
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I resonate with this post a lot, Warlock/Shaman Main too here, Warlock is definitely looking great moving into TWW.
I think this is the biggest issue a lot of classes, not just Shaman, feel bad for Hunters, honestly it would be nice to even get a Dev post acknowledging that it’s atleast coming, I think that would calm a lot of people. We just need to know we been heard.
Well Stormbringer is all Lightning and going to be great, I prefer myself the Lightning Builds for both Ele but especially Enhance, we will have this back in TWW, Farseer looks like to replicate the Lava Burst spam which is currently our S3/S4 playstyle as Ele. So we at least have a choice now.
Changes will happen, just taking its time.
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I wouldn’t say Stormbringer is going to be “great” for ele. It has major problems. Tempest is a long cast, it doesn’t interact with and actually munches our lightning bolt modifiers, we have the 50 second stormkeeper that requires a weakaura to track effectively, tempest proccing off of 3 random nature damage instances which require a second weakaura to track, tempest after 400 maelstrom spent likely requiring a THIRD weakaura, starlord/festermight mechanics that will encourage /cancelaura macros, a constitutive slow that will make stormbringer an auto-decline on sanguine week, a choice node between ST/AOE… It needs a lot of work compared to the enhancement side. But people who only casually alt ele shaman won’t really care because wowee instant chain lightning!
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The changes don’t HAVE to be on this level, but if things like the following are not part of a Ele Shaman rework at some point in the beta, the class will be dead on arrival.
- Windfury changed to a class wide raid buff that gives 3% haste.
- Elemental Orbit providing 8% DR to the shaman if they have Earth Shield on themselves.
- Choice node for Chain Lightning that either makes it apply Flame Shock to every target it hits OR hit every target in range.
- Earthquake to be attached to the target the Shaman casts it on and move with that target.
- All the 2pt nodes brought down to 1pt nodes like the Demo Tree.
- Lava Burst to scale with your crit % like Chaos Bolt.
- Both hero trees to feel like less “low effort, unimpactful” garbage.