Annoying toy spamming chat

Can the toy, “Imp in a ball” get a small change.
At the moment, it will talk in chat as often as every 30 seconds. At the moment, a player can simply macro it into their spells so that it goes off very often. I have come across this several times recently and it is quite annoying.
To make it less obnoxious, simply make it so that it shows what player is using the item(so that we can simply /ignore them so their toy isn’t spamming the party chat) or make it to where it cannot be used in pve or pvp instances so that the chat log isn’t full of the toy’s flavor text when some people are trying to make relevant callouts.
I’m sure there are a few other toys out there with a similar function. Changing those as well will prevent the trolls from swapping their macros to those toys instead in order to clog the chat logs.

They’re unlikely to make changes to legacy items like this. The rarity means you won’t encounter it much. I can only remember it a couple times in over 15yrs of play.

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I’ve come across it a few times the last month alone. The item is on the black market AH so it will only get more common.
Spamming is a ToS violation and I promise you that if people found a way to use legacy items to cheat, Blizzard would change the item in a heartbeat. Being a legacy item does not grant it an immunity to changing it in ways that prevent its use in ToS violations.

A few times… and that’s enough for you to have a meltdown and rush to the forums? Blizzard is already on a crusade to take away everyone’s fun where ever they might find it, they don’t need any help from you.

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If pointing out that an item being used against ToS is annoying and asking that the item be changed only in a way that prevents it use to troll is your idea of a meltdown, you might want to go random fast food joint and hang around in view of the cash register for a while. After watching a few people react to an incorrect order, you will quickly learn the difference between asking for a change and a meltdown lol.
I can only assume that you’re taking this personally because you like to use items like this to mess with people(after all, you state that it is a way of taking away people’s fun, so your opinion in favor of trolling with toys). I’m sorry that one of your methods of trolling may get removed. I’m sure you’ll find other ways to have a good time! :slight_smile:

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You can make whatever assumptions you like. Luckily reality carries on regardless.

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Very true. It will likely be a reality where this item is changed for the better. Cheers, friend. :slight_smile:

I’ve never heard the words “black market auction house” and “common” used in the same sentence before.

You not liking something is not a breach of the ToS. Using a toy a few times on a 30 second cd doesn’t really seem like spam. For you to see it you have to be in their party, that means you chose to group with them. Start there maybe.

If the ToS was intended to insulate us from all annoyances we’d be spending all day filling in tickets about pearl-clutchers, train set droppers, those who pull for tanks, people who list things one at a time on the AH, flippers, cancel scanners, hunters who refuse to tranq … none of us would have any time to play.

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Oh I thought you were you were done crying about me disliking a toy being spammed. Allow me to address your comments.

“black market and common…” - I said “more common”. As in the total number will always increase as more are released to the games population

“you not liking something isn’t a breach of the ToS” : I said that the spamming was a breach of the ToS, me not liking it is incidental.

“using a toy a few times on a 30 second cd doesn’t seem like spam” : If you would read my post, you would see that it was used it on a tight 30cd because people had created macros to use the toy along with their core abilities so it was spammed. The chat intervals trade chat are far longer than 30 seconds(2-3 times every couple minutes before you have to wait to chat again). Also, chat spam is usually defined as repetitive chat on short intervals, which the toy most certainly qualifies.

“you have to agree to join their group” : This is not true since you do not get to pick your partners in lfg dungeons and random bgs. You get what you get, quite frankly. And even if you are choosing someone who will spam the chat, you certainly aren’t doing it with prior knowledge of their intent to spam. With no way of knowing who is doing the spam, is a group/raid supposed to just remove everyone and start over to make sure that they got rid the troll who is clogging up the chat?

“If ToS was intended to insulate us from all annoyances” : I don’t care to respond to this one frankly because it is so off topic but I might as well just to be thorough. At no point have I ever said that I believe that all annoyances should be eliminated so I agree with your statement only when it exists in a vacuum. I have proved my point that spamming the item is a ToS violation and asked only for a way to make the chat spam avoidable with a /ignore or by preventing its use in instances. That is the only thing that I have requested, which is very limited in scope. Therefore your entire statement projecting disdain of all annoyances and asking that they all be removed is moot. A wise(?) person once said, “You can make whatever assumptions you like. Luckily reality carries on regardless.” and I believe that is very relevant here despite your wild assumptions.

I am not sure why you are so invested and so angry that I am asking for a small change to a supposedly rare item but I will point out that forum rules(you know, the rules that you click to agree when you use the forums) do indicate that your posts are supposed to add constructively to the main post. So perhaps it is time for you to move on to another part of the forum. You’re wasting my time and I usually charge by the hour for my time(first consultations are usually free, however!). So if you really want me to respond more, I’ll direct you to my secretary for my rates, if you can make a post that is even worth responding to, of course.

Again, cheers!

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I had a guild member back in Vanilla-WotlK days who had a macro on her Sunder Armor skill that put a phrase I cannot repeat here now into chat with /say. One silly line from a toy every 30 seconds is nowhere near as annoying as that…and that wasn’t all that annoying.

Nothing wrong with coming here suggesting something that would improve the game for you, but my suggestion is: You are better off spending that time and energy on changing your own attitude towards these kinds of things. At the end of the day, you are only making yourself miserable being bothered by something you can’t change.

Also, just let people be silly. It’s not like it is spamming dozens of lines of text every few seconds.

The difference between a traditional spam macro is that the person who is using the macro can be identified and /ignore can be used to keep the chat clear of clutter. That is not the case with the toy in question.
As I am mostly deaf, I rely on visual/chat callouts since audible callouts do very little for me. Therefore, this is an accessibility issue for me and no amount of “attitude adjustment” will ever fix my hearing.
All I am asking for is the ability to mute people who abuse the toy for chat clutter. I don’t believe my position is unreasonable.

Fair enough, you didn’t make mention of your dependence on chat for your disability, so I didn’t see the problem in that light. I think a good suggestion would be to have things like toys be their own channel that can be disabled. I use addons to customize my chatbox, and I wish we could do more. The built in options are pretty anemic.

Please note that I never suggested you were being unreasonable.

Asking for toys to be muted as a toggle in the player’s client is a reasonable request. Asking to have things removed for everybody is not.

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Asking one to change their attitude will often imply unreasonableness as reasonable attitudes do not often require adjustment. That is where I got the impression that you thought my request was unreasonable.
The separate channel for emotes would definitely be a viable alternative though. Good suggestion!

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Sorry if I came off that way, I was trying to give you honest advice.

Wow this escalated.

Put the offender on ignore.

While I wouldn’t care if this was changed I doubt it will be. But I do agree that minor annoyances meeting it’s imposed is needing its own post is a bit much. But it’s a free country

Oh you’re fine! In my profession, literally everyone you speak to takes the opposite position of yours lmao.
Sorry if I came across as aggressive. Since I am so used to my writings being bland, I often forget that simply responding to one’s argument can appear different to people who put emotion behind their words.

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The entire point of the post is that there is no ability to put the spammer on ignore because it does not show who is using the toy. That is the change that I am requesting so that I actually can put the offender on ignore.

Is there no context clues like radius? Wouldn’t the toy be next to someone?
If not then yeah they could do that

Seems reasonable, i can’t imagine any reason this would be a negative and fought by the community. :dracthyr_nod:

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