[Annifresh] Remove [de]buff limits. Edit: SUCCESSFUL

Cross over post from general forums after Nekrage raised the issue. Continuing the petition here.

I will make the case using the verbiage that Hardcore was presented to us in the original launch article for Hardcore:

To Buff or Debuff

The 16 debuff limit and 32 buff limits have been removed on Hardcore realms.

Debuff and buff limits were originally a technical limitation in the earliest versions of World of Warcraft and was not a conscious design choice at that time. This aspect of the original release was maintained for the release of WoW Classic in 2019 for authenticity, but this has always been a contentious part of WoW and places significant constraints on build and class diversity. As a result, we will be removing this limitation in Hardcore realms and effectively uncapping buffs and debuffs.

This argument, made by Blizzard themselves, stands pretty well on its own, and the reasons enclosed are solid reasons to remove the limit.

Additionally, I think this change was highly popular in Hardcore, without removing any authentic feeling present in the base game.

[De]buff limits only serve a negative purpose within the game. They can cause drama if a player accidentally uses a banned debuff on a boss, or doesn’t know not to use a debuff on a boss, making that person feel unduly bullied by 39 other players. A player may also feel as though the class or build they want to play is not welcome in a majority of guilds, and so they choose to play a different class or build that doesn’t align with their personal fantasy for the game.

We all know in our heart of hearts that this limit is not useful to anyone. Its removal is for the greater good.

Thank you.

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Removing the debuff limit allows people to play specs that they want rather than being forced into other classes simply because of this limit. Let us use our spells please. It’s not even a matter of making the classes stronger, as it doesn’t. It just allows people to actually play specs like shadow priest, affliction warlock and such.

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Shame that vanilla classic only has a couple strong specs out of two dozen.

It’s crazy that they admit its a technical limitation and it restricts diversity and freedom
just not for non hardcore tho
LOL
good one blizz

To be fair, they were up against a wall of giganerds who wanted the game to be a carbon copy of 2004, even though everyone unanimously agreed batching was stupid and didn’t complain at all when that got changed lol

I get it, I just can’t help but feel like this is such a no brainer move to do and anyone who actually argues for the debuff limit to stay for “authenticity” actually does not play the game and has rocks inside their skull

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