BfA was their attempt at GoT levels of complexity and it tanked hard. Lets stick to simple storytelling, they need to work on balance as it is.
WC has had grey characters before BfA, Illidan, Kael, Akama, Slyvanas (pre-bfa), Grom, i could go on, don’t need to be GoT to have characters be interesting.
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Anduin Bundy
This game is fake. None of this is real. The entire plot and game and story is unbelievable, that’s the point. ![]()
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if “it’s not real” is a decent excuse for bad writing why does good writing exist?
Good writing and bad writing are completely subjective though. You saying Anduin is written badly is simply your opinion, it’s not a fact. Something not being believable or ‘real enough’ in a fantasy story is a personal requirement and expectation that you yourself put on the medium. Plenty of people immerse themselves into fantasy and science fiction stories because they’re unbelievable and ridiculous.
What you might see as ‘cartoony good’, some others might see as ‘something to aspire to’, and that doesn’t equal bad writing.
that’s a misconception, no good and bad writing exist just as good and bad comedy does, what makes you laugh or what interests you is subjective but no there is a line of quality that exists. you might just have lower threshold of what interests you.
Well he is the example of non-toxic masculinity.
Who decides that quality? The person consuming the media. Thus, subjective. And who’s to say who has the lower or higher threshold of the quality in storytelling? I fail to see how it’s a misconception that finding a particular game or story is likeable or enjoyable is subjective.
it is subjective…it’s not objective
If Warcraft 3 starred Anduin, Sylvanas, and Jaina instead of Arthas, Illidan, and Kael’thas, I doubt we would even have a WoW.
Characters nowadays are terrible. Which means the writers are.
What is this line of quality that you’re referring to then? I’m legitimately trying to understand lol
99.99% of females and 99.9% of chihuahuas are more “toxic” than Anduin.
finding something likable or enjoyable is subjective, quality is objective
quality is objective
Who decides the quality then? Who has the objective final say on what’s good writing and bad writing?
What is an objective fact though is that most people think WoW’s story writing is garbage nowadays. And that the most popular characters in the series are nothing like the current protagonists.
What is an objective fact though is that most people think WC3’s story is garbage nowadays
Okay, if it’s an objective fact, may I see the poll you took of ‘most people’ giving this opinion? Kind of shocking, considering most people I talk to see WC3 as one of the best parts of this game’s lifetime.
Well it was a typo and I corrected it to WoW.
" Here are 10 writers and editors, ranging from Cicero to Stephen King, offering their thoughts on the differences between good writers and bad writers."
What does this prove, though? Ten writers out of millions get to decide what good and bad writing is? I’m skimming through this article and while I agree with a lot, this is still painfully vague. I could say this about any writing I personally don’t like and what I do like, because it’s ambiguous enough that it could be interpreted any way.
Please don’t misunderstand, I’m not sitting here saying Blizzard has the most groundbreaking writers we’ll ever see in our lifetime. Honestly, 70% of the time I complain about it too. I do disagree about the idea that Anduin being ‘goody goody’ is boring in a story that overflows with so much moral grayness that it’s become excruciatingly predictable. To the point where I will actually be shocked if they don’t try to corrupt him in some way with this new cinematic.
Well it was a typo and I corrected it to WoW.
Oop, I apologize. Didn’t see that.
My point still stands, though - if it’s an objective fact, I would think that there would be some kind of poll or evidence of that instead of getting your info from opinions on the Blizzard forums and your own personal social circle.