This guy was raised basically without a father, finds his father, has his father murdered, then gets placed in charge on the strongest human kingdom left along with other races looking to him for protection and guidance and all you mofos can do is complain. I would dare anyone to do better in his shoes.
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Burn this thread in righteous holy fire.
PS. A hozen could do a better job than Andiun.
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I am not sure that starting a thread with insults aimed a people who have a different opinion from you is a good persuasive tool, but perhaps I am wrong.
I donât particularly dislike Anduin the character, but I do dislike the role that he has been put in. He was better in MoP as the idealistic prince who served as a foil to Varianâs more hard nosed approach. As the King of Stormwind, he comes across a bit too much as a âChosen Oneâ trope for my taste. Also, he tends to suck up all of the room in what passes for the Alliance story. That one sadly isnât specific to him since Varian did the same thing. Frankly, they should have made one of the other leaders the High King or Supreme Commander and let Anduin and the humans not be at the forefront of the Alliance for an xpac or two.
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Oh I canât wait for the Night Elves to find this thread.
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All hail God-Emperor Anduin Wrynn, High King of the Alliance
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Ya ok. You would die of stress day 1
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The peasants would revolt from her endless wars
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In B4 ⌠Dang it! Iâm already too late! ⌠munches on popcorn popcorn is still good popcorn.
Now more seriously, Myalison simply put it best, Anduin has a âChosen oneâ role, which is why basically a lot of people donât like him. In short, he is a Gary Stu. Mary Stus and Gary Stus are just terrible for any kind of story. To be honest I did like how Anduin did dismantle the war and won it from a strategic perspective. He got hit harder than the Horde, the Horde had the running advantage, and used the Hordeâs civil war to win. I just wish the story portrayed it more well.
I think the worst part was the fact Alliance won both warfronts. NOT BECAUSE I AM HORDE THAT BLEEDS RED! But it prevents Anduin from any real consequences. He should have to have chosen either Darkshore, or Arathi, choosing one would result in the loss of another, real good story consequences. But since he is the Gary Stu and the Alliance player was there when the Horde player couldnât interfere, nothing wrong happened.
I will say I do appreciate what you feel is going against the Echo Chamber. Theyâre never good, and just result into meaningless bickering and yelling that leads to nowhere. âEITHER WITH US OR AGAINST US!â That or you could be trolling, hard to tell these days sadly.
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Iâm afraid I canât appreciate Anduin, because heâs done nothing but harm my enjoyment of the story. I was thinking earlier about how Stormwindâs storyline has actually regressed in complexity from what it was in Vanilla.
Back then, you had Anduin on the throne since Varian was missing, but he was just a kid. He did little more than say âEnjoying your stay in Stormwind?â The actual rulers were Bolvar Fordragon and Katrana Prestor, with Bolvar trying to do the right thing and Katrana, aka Onyxia, trying to sabotage Stormwind from within. At the same time you had the House of Nobles causing issues due to them pursuing their own interests. Meanwhile, outside of the capital and Elwynn Forest, the rest of the kingdom was being left vulnerable due to Onyxiaâs manipulations. Not only were there internal issues with the Defias uprising and the dark curses that had befallen Duskwood, but the Dark Horde to the north and the Gurubashi to the south were becoming major threats to the kingdom. In short, there was a LOT going on in Stormwind.
Now though? There hasnât really been anything since Cataclysm. Stormwindâs story was eaten up entirely by the Wrynn family. First Varian, and now even more by Anduin. Anduin Wrynnâs story IS the story of Stormwind and playable humans. And personally speaking, thatâs not a story Iâm interested in. I canât stand perfect, moralizing characters that never, ever have to eat crow. The narrative bends over backwards to make Anduin right, even when heâs wrong. The disaster of his plan to reconcile human and Forsaken family members wasnât his fault, it was Sylvanasâ. Because sheâs a big meanie and it wouldâve worked out perfectly otherwise.
The only other character who rises to Anduin-levels of obnoxiousness is Sylvanas, but Iâm guessing after Shadowlands we wonât have to worry about her anymore.
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So do many nobility. Itâs how it works
There is nothing to appreciate for me.
-He is terrible ruler to his own people , I never saw him doing anything for people of Stormwind becuase he was always raised to be some sort of big guy to seek peace at all cost, he turned out to be more concerned over well being of the Horde than his own people. And for me that is primar thing to judge the leader.
-He never truly experienced proper consequences of his mistakes. Others had to do it, and nobody ever confronted him about it. Anduin is always the wise one, everyone bends down and do as he pleases, and if they have some problems it was always handwaved.
-He never learns from his mistakes, he didnât have a character growth, none of the experiences shaped him in any form, quite the contrary, the experiences shouldâve affect him in a way, make him change his mind on certain stuff, but nope Anduin remain to be beacon of superior morality.
Which leads to another problem :
-if he is beacon of superior morality then anyone who will oppose him will be the bad guy, because only evil guy would be against the boy who just wants peace and kindness and all goodies.
And I donât think World of Warcraft should be a place for such a plots. WoW should be about 2 or even more rivaling factions which has itâs aims and needs, political objectives, struggles and advantages. Alliance felt far more diverse in itâs nature back in vanilla than it currently is because of the likes of Anduin. This faction feels completely flat, homogenic and even if they do display shades of grayness itâs all swept under the rug.
And all of the nasty things is done by Horde additionally multiplied by the narrative where even in their own experience Horde is often shown as in the wrong/evil.
That is incredibly primitive writing if you ask me.
If I were a writer, Iâd make Anduin be confronted, so he wouldnât be the High king of the Alliance, and additionally confronted by his own people. Iâd make House of the Nobles take over Stormwind to show that there is more to it than just Wrynn family. That Alliance can have itâs own dark shades and can be filled with opportiunists. And Anduin can end up as hermit somewhere outside where he could gather people that like his mindset but to show that his believes arenât actually the main Alliance mindset.
When it comes to taste I also donât like his attitude and personality and even looks at all. He comes out as dull.
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Does everyone HAVE to take the bait of a troll thread?
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like i have been saying, is not that i really dislike anduin, the character.
But is the position that was put in for no reason
i had a similar problem with varian.
Why he is not confronted? why he doesnât pay consequences for his actions?.
jaina at some point payed for her pacifism, got her entire city destroyed and friends killed.
genn, same, he left the alliance after the second war and closed his gates when the plague hit.
years later his kingdom was destroyed, son killed.
Tyrande⌠i donât know what wrong she has done hmm, maybe releasing illidan?
anyway⌠i guess she payed in advance.
meanwhile⌠everything goes well for anduin, and the question is⌠why?.
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Anduin appreciation? âŚ
In the audio book of Before the Storm, his voice actor was entertaining as Sylvanas and Baine. It made me laugh a little to hear Baine and Sylvanas through Anduinâs voice.
Anduin is alright. Not particularly offensive. I appreciate his Characterization and perspective as something needed in the story.
Naive hope and âwisdom from the mouth of babesâ can be realistic, relatable, and sympathetic.
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It has? Heâs been apparently getting outsmarted by sylvanas 1000D chess all expansion
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iâd appreciate him every night tbh
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âYou canât do better so you canât criticizeâ is a weak argument at best.
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I think my favorite Anduin is the one from WoL. While he may have been working for the greater good, his primary motivation was to prove he was a worthy inheritor of the throne to his people. All the while showing quite clearly that he inherited his fatherâs manipulative side.
I think my favorite scene of his was when he contacted his father to say âHey, you know your biggest blunder of all time? Well Iâm on my way to prove I can succeed where you catastrophically failed, and not only that Iâm doing it with the help of the person you hate the most!â
God, Space Anduin was such a good character
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I wouldnât go that far, but heâs grown on me some.
Really makes you wonder how they could go so wrong with fantasy Anduin.
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