And people wonder why casuals are gone

I am playing my alt warrior in last season 1600 gear. I knew it’d be hard but i wanted to cap it. Im halfway through the total conquest cap. Around a 55% w/l and Im at 1400 mmr now.

Ontop of countless people in 1600 current season gear at even 1200 rating, i have queued into about 5 glad carries so far, won two…lost three because apparently when a mage ice walls seed, i cannot hit the seed at all. So i have 10 seconds to kill a 50k wall and a 25k seed on a 252 ilvl warrior with a mage ccing me after killing his glad lock carrier using drain life leggo. Fun game.

Favorite was a BM in full current season rival gear at 1350 rating, literally S keying the entire game and doubled my entire damage. Not exaggerating. He backpedalled the entire game and did 610k to my 335k. What kind of game design is that? Spammable endless damage. Killshots for 15k. Cobra shot spam for 4800 to 6k and 8k to 10 on a crit. Why is an instant ability they can spam hitting for 10k.

My partner was an undergeared hpal too and did his best but considering we were at 1350 mmr at the time, the imbalance shouldnt have been as extreme as it was. The poor guy quit and said he isnt having any fun because everyone was fully geared in current season gladiator gear and in a bracket they really shouldnt be based on rating.

The entry to pvp is ridiculous and no wonder everyone is quitting.

252 vs 259 is winnable. 252 vs 285 is not. Stupid game.

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yeah they made bm hunter so even the worst players in the game could collect participation trophy

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I just clicked on this thread and there’s 3 people typing oh god

I had flashbacks to MoP’s “Thrill of the Hunt” talent! :rofl:

Arcane Shots were 10 focus and the buff was always available lol!!

Numbers don’t seem to support your argument. Did you mean your friend’s list is lower now?
Maybe you are being ignored?

https://www.xunamate.com/#/

This shows that there is more participation currently than it was in January

for the sake of being honest, there was a huge spike in participation towards the end of Feb then going lower but still higher than jan

I dont know what this means lol. The pvp community on the whole is among the smallest its ever been. Go look at the total number in lfg at any time and its pretty obvious

ok, so you have a problem reading numbers? that makes sense is to why your post is not accurate

morning is slow for Alliance, during the evening though plenty of friends log in and we can play and the queue pops pretty fast

For alliance ( based on my experience) the more friends you have makes it easier to get into PVP groups

unless of course you mean casuals don’t have friends?

Numbers don’t support your condescending post you cowardly made from an alt. He said casuals are gone not participation is down.

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You mean to say that the more people you know, the more people you play with?

I’m shocked. Give this man a Pulitzer.

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I know why they’re gone.

I’m just curious as to why Blizzard won’t backpeddle any of their decisions for two entire years.

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crazy on an mmo making friends …

Only thing that comes to mind with blizzard and going back on something they said is like, there will never be a classic wow.

Not very fluent in sarcasm

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Just played a solo shuffle with Shadow with 44k HP with Fort and 3 DPS with 70k HP.

I was healing on my MW and I told the guy straight up after the first round and I saw the HP of the enemy team that I wasn’t going to heal him and he was going to lose every round and he shouldn’t be here.

Fairly, I got called toxic by the other DPS on the team and that I should “chill” because it’s a “casual” game mode but Shuffle is simply not casual. There is nothing casual about a game mode that is unwinnable when the gear disparity is 10+ ilvls, let alone 30+. I hate that Blizzard have made so many aspects of PvP toxic and that I as a player have to turn my brain off and mindlessly do something to avoid the toxic elements Blizzard have created.

There is nothing casual about any PvP game mode in the game right now because skill cannot account for anything meaningful when gear means so much. I don’t care if the Shadow was Wizk’s alt, he’s getting dumpstered by the mouth breathing clicker WW with 74k HP. It doesn’t matter how either of them or either team plays.

Imagine being that Shadow and getting kurb stomped for 6 rounds. Is he going to think to himself after that shuffle that what he should actually have done is join a rated arena group to get gear? Hahah hell no. He’s going to either log off or never touch PvP again.

The crazy part is that at some point in the future the big wig Blizzard devs are going to scratch their heads and wonder why no one PvP’s and why Arena is dead. They’re going to have meetings and discuss what went wrong or what could be done to revitalize the game mode and honestly at this point I don’t see anything really fixing this mess short of an entire redesign of the gearing and progression systems in the game. That’s the sort of thing that doesn’t happen unless those responsible for the current system are gone (Ion).

I don’t have a single positive thing to say about Shadowlands PvP. Wish I did. I feel sorry for people stupid enough to try and get into PvP, too. If people knew how insanely futile it is to try and PvP with 45k HP right now, no one would do it. Instead we get these poor blokes queuing up for Solo shuffle with no enchants, no gear, wrong/no legendaries, wrong covenant, no conduits and no chance who get thrown into a meat grinder and Blizzard probably think it’s a good system. Are the players really the toxic ones for pointing out how ridiculous this is and refusing to play along or is it really Blizzard being toxic for even imagining a system like this while being paid a salary to be a game designer while implementing it. Shame on whoever is responsible for Solo Shuffle and SL PvP.

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this is actually true. however, just wait until you start facing assa rogues with 4 piece starting next week. you aint seen nothing yet ! :slight_smile:

Don’t worry, blizzard hears you. So they buffed BM by 3% recently. They shouldn’t even need to S key. How are they supposed to click their abilities and press S at the same time? Come on man!

Update here, im 71 games played, 44 wins. Pretty good for 252 ilvl and hard stuck at 1500 because no 275 gear yet.

Going to have to grind like 35k more honor out and wait to double leggo i guess. Stupid system.

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I was healing on my MW and I told the guy straight up after the first round and I saw the HP of the enemy team that I wasn’t going to heal him and he was going to lose every round and he shouldn’t be here.

Stopped reading there. Solo shuffle is a quick way to earn honour, not rating or prestige. He 100% belongs there. The backpeddling, geared to the teeth people doing it do not belong there. They should be in rated - but likely, are stuck at 1200mmr and need to dumpster on alts.

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Agreed. Regardless of gear, if someone is wanting to pvp then they belong wherever they queue up. They need to get their honor to get more gear somehow.

Disagree. Tanks don’t belong in pvp

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