An "Elitist's" Post-Launch Reevaluation

If your cat DPS has that much disparity you are either A. not appropriately geared or 2. Not playing it correctly. Phase 1 and 2 is where cat DPS will shine the brightest and pull more DPS than other DPS classes due to itemization and scaling. Once BWL hits, this will start to pull away.

This is mitigated horribly by the fact that the Feral steroid, MCP, is just to put us on par with everyone else, and we have no other temporary power spikes. Right now the highest guilds are downing bosses in ~1 min, meaning Mages are spending the entire fight either with Power Infusion or Arcane Power, and Warriors/Rogues get to have their CDs all up at once for about 50% of the fight.

We honestly need longer, steadier fights to shine as a Feral because our damage is just that, nice and steady and smooth the entire fight. I don’t think we’ll get that.

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17 days played time in a month equates to 13 hours a day. Every day. How do your eyes feel? Do you wear blue light filter glasses? Just curious

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The only real difference between classic and vanilla are that there was no +spell damage or +healingl gear from dungeons when mc was being cleared in vanilla. Which made healing and caster damage significantly lower. This is why mc/ony seems so easy to clear for people. I have a feeling bwl will be a bit harder for people to walk into, however depending how long blizzard is planning to hold it back from being released might make that content easier as well. Aq40 will be the first real challenge for people.

This isn’t remotely true. Why do people keep saying this?

Because it is true. Blizzard reworked dungeon loot in 1.10 to have spell power and healing added to many pieces. That’s why brd has all this amazing loot but there are so many garbage items still with int/stam/spi in the level 60 dungeons

/face-desk

No.
https://itemization.info/item/11923
No no.
https://itemization.info/item/7721
No no no.
https://itemization.info/item/18717
No no no no
https://itemization.info/item/2271
NO NO NO NO NO
https://itemization.info/item/2816

No. Just no.

There is literally a SINGLE ADDITIONAL item with +Healing that was added in 1.10 that didn’t have it before, and that’s the staff off Emperor. And you can match it with appropriate off-hands with one of the many above linked items that also existed prior to Patch 1.10

FFS

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Items werent added, they were CHANGED you can still find the original brd item starts but you have to dig for them

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I JUST LINKED THEM

Spell Power gear and Healing Power gear existed prior to them updating the loot off Emperor. You could rock:

https://itemization.info/item/11923
https://itemization.info/item/9393

And have 48 Healing. In Patch 1.1.

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Im going to make a generalized post that some here might find to be combative

This dude went out of his way to comment on most specs of most classes and give helpful insights on many of them, and some people here are ragging on him.

If you dont find his post helpful or you already knew this information, why not just move on. Ragging on someone trying to be helpful to the classic community is ridiculous and shouldn’t be accepted as ok

10/10 for being helpful

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Shamans do well in pvp, not enhancement shamans specifically. Enhancement is just objectively worse than elemental for pvp in pretty much every single way.

People who claim that enhancement is “great” for pvp are just stubborn windfury enthusiasts who like the aesthetic of it. Any success an enhancement shaman player has in pvp could be replicated twice as effectively on an elemental shaman

Elemental has every tool that enhancement shamans have for pvp plus more and without all the glaring weaknesses like being extremely easy to kite

I disagree and I played Enhancement in vanilla. Mine wore blue gear and wielded The Unstoppable Force. Hunters were annoying but Windfury destroyed with that weapon. Nothing funnier than 1-shotting a rank 13 or 14 with a double WF crit.

Ok, you just pretty much proved my point, you just liked the aesthetic of enhancement, you didn’t play elemental.

Hunters are EZ mode to kill as elemental

I played all 3 specs but ended up with Enhancement.

And my comment had nothing to do with aesthetics. The looks of Windfury and Frostshock are not what make it do the damage it does. I don’t understand how you believe this. I know theres the whole “if looks could kill”…

Nobody is 1-shotting anyone as Elemental unless to them, PVP is hanging out around Southshore, killing people questing.

They also decided to base their evaluation almost entirely on logs, rather than experience.

So, you know, give it whatever weight you feel is appropriate for someone combing through data sets to find things that support their opinion, especially when actual experience taught them otherwise in a few cases.

Some of it is anecdotal experience however, not even remotely enough of it. Qualitative data requires an enormously larger sample size than quantitative data.

Rofl, you obviously know nothing about elemental

Elemental shaman has HIGHER burst damage than enhancement all without relying on very unlikely RNG

You’re just the classic example of the enhancement fanboy that never actually was good at pvp but just has selective memory of those rare moments you got a lucky proc

Theres a reason why elemental is considered a top tier pvp spec while enhancement is many tiers lower in any rankings

I get it, you like elemental and believe it’s good because it makes crackling sounds. Just wait until you get more experience under your belt.

Bears have had a really bad rep for being bad tanks. I remember on my server back in the day, one of the big guilds main tank was a bear. They really aren’t that worse than a warrior.

Rofl, the irony

Ive played for months on the pvp henhouse server. a server dedicated to competitive vanilla pvp with teir 2 and rank 14 gear available for all. Anyone who spends any significant amount of time testing shaman always ends up rolling elemental to actually win

So many times ive seen shamans reluctantly accept that enhancement just sucks at high level pvp, all while having everyone else cry about how " stupid overpowered " elemental shaman damage is

Its you that doesn’t have near enough experience to be talking