Instead of massively limiting the crafting orders completable by people after the early exploiters basically maxed everything out, why not just add in ‘material sink’ crafting orders for NPCs that refresh every 15 minutes. This could allow players to make some small amounts of gold while also removing some resources from the market, letting people not have to alt hop to do the work orders weeklies, and allow actual prof leveling beyond the ‘dead zones’ most profs currently have for some reason.
Also: could we have Writhebark NOT be used in every profession in places, or make it’s base drop amounts higher cause, seriously, why
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Crafting orders are not a mission table.
I never said they would, but I’m suggesting an option since things are hard gated like this right now for advancement, I also did not say that you’d make ‘all the money’ like mission tables were, or that you’d send people out to do the thing then wait for it to be done, there is also the fact that I clearly stated the player would provide the crafting mats, making it more of a mats sink to keep advancing more reliably to solve the ‘first in people took all the orders forever’ issue that we currently have
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And this is the main reason I made my suggestion, as right now, the ‘need alts’ thing again, punishes players who don’t use alts.
Another thing that could help is letting us order refinements too, like ordering runed writhebark if we front the mats, or say, bolts/gears if we want to get the stuff for making engineering things without using the AH, or heck, for the refinements it could work in a nested system too, where you order the finished thing and if it needs refinements that prof does, then the base level mats for the refinement are calculated out to ensure the craft and the crafter keeps any extra
You’ll be happy to know that public work orders being capped to 4 a day from 20 means you have an astronomically higher chance to complete now since the people botting them will cap out instantly.
4 orders you can do when 0 people are putting in orders still means no orders
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because they are being massively botted
I’ve only ever seen max renown crafts pop up before on my LW
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I have placed multiple orders. They’re all filled before I can fly to the mailbox to collect them.
The reason there are not orders in the queue is because they are filled instantly.
The solution to the “weekly quota” is to remove that weekly quests entirely because it’s creating this ridiculous illusion that there’s a quota players are supposed to meet rather than offering a simple incentive to check the crafting table occasionally.
I’ve completed that weekly quest one time, no alts involved. I have fulfilled 1 public crafting order and 2 private orders for a friend (ordering something they actually needed).
Having the quest is a nice reminder to hit that crafting order tab when I’m at the table. Sometimes there are orders I can’t fill. Sometimes there are orders I can fill but I don’t click fast enough to get them. And yeah, 95% of the time it shows nothing. But I’m not sitting at the table waiting for them; I just check when I’m already there.
If you feel like you absolutely must complete that weekly quest every week, then advertise in Trade to get private orders.
The public order system is filled by actual players ordering things they actually need, and the orders are completed by other players. It is not a mission table and will never be a board full of an endless number of things to craft.
What needs to be fixed? I got a Lariat ordered and a gem for it and with in 20 mins my orders will filled and delivered. Is that not how it is supposed to work?
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just make all craftable stuff boe, use the reg ah, scrap the crafting order system, keep it simple
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More so for the crafter side of things. 3 knowledge points are locked behind a weekly to do work orders, but, there’s not much in the way of work orders as most work order things are ‘people need it once, and never again’ so, it stagnated, hard, and fast
You know you can make yourself work orders right?
As noted earlier: players should not have to alt hop to get orders to complete a quest which does impact prof advancement.
Not every one will have alts, you can’t do cross realm WO, and wasn’t a big thing to try and get away from forcing people to use alts to do stuff?
Last time I did that people tried to basically ‘steal’ Artisans Mettle from me/not pay for the Artisans Mettle cost as a time gated mat by providing mats other than it. I’ve had alot of such experiences with private orders to the point that I find them a sham.
I just gave up on professions. Not worth it this late in the game. Most are around 50 and I don’t ever see myself ever going higher. Skinning is the only one at max and that’s because I don’t have to do work orders or fly on a stupid dragon.
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Allowing public orders to request quality would go a long way to help fix things. Right now, people are bypassing the public system to ensure max quality.
Additionally, quality of an item should be tied to an item the crafter makes.
You should be able to get an item crafted and then upgrade it easily with a rank 5 “quality regent”.
Let the crafter worry about the % chance of making the upgrade item rank 3, 4, 5 depending on their skill.
As a buyer right now, people are avoiding the public system because of the uncertainty. We need to get people comfortable with getting lower quality items made, even if it is temporary until they recraft with a rank 4 or rank 5 “quality regent”.
what are you talking about? Artisan mettle is only used for Recrafts and is a currency with the traders guild You dont use it in crafting.
Nope, the high tier prof equipment that is BoP also uses Mettle to make it