i love lights!
Can’t wait for reviews with ray tracing.
Me too - but the real takeaway here (if these slides are to believed) is that Nvidia can’t just ride on it’s laurels like Intel and Ryzen.
AMD doesn’t have to necessarily beat Nvidia in every metric, but as long as its competitive, it will push the envelope for the R&D of both companies.
Well, im glad I didn’t go and rush to buy a 3080.
I’m still waiting for the 5900X CPU to actually be buyable, and grab a 6800XT. Thats my present for surviving 2020 this year.
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There’s a chance I upgrade my CPU for the direct memory access support they’re promising.
If so, it would be
8700k —> 5800X
Z370 —> X570/X6xx
5700XT —> 6800XT
I’m excited mainly becuase I am currently on a 2500K and a GTX 970.
I’ve got all my parts, a really nice x570 mobo. Im just waiting on the cpu and now GPU. hurray, because I want some nice stuff to run shadowlands and other titles on.
SUPER Excited.
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Will be a huge upgrade my dude. PC gaming feels great right now.
If any the marketing slides are to be believed this explains why Nvidia is rumored to be working on new GPUs. Looks like AMD is cheaper, lower power consumption and same speed or faster. Supposedly AMD is working on its on DLSS thing (maybe works on all games?). Nvidia wins raytracing on higher end cards though Ampere nor RNDA 2 look like it’s enough for future ray tracing needs.
It’s important to remember these are the FE version of the cards. AMD still hasn’t released any higher clocked AIBs.
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Wait but we saw games with raytracing, not to mention the consoles support it. I don’t think we can really say who wins here until we can actually benchmark amd new cards on raytraced games.
The main thing I’m praying does not happen is Nvidia pulls some stunt and tries to market rtx like physx…
You are not running a dedicated PhysX card?! You will make Jensen Huang cry.
Time to take back my 1080 from my brother’s pc 
Exactly. I might switch to AMD for my next build. Nvidia cards are good and I’ve been their customer for many years but they got so expensive. $1600 for just the graphics card? No way.
I think the 6900XT appears to be the weakest offering.
Why?
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It appears to require both the new Ryzen 5000-only Smart Access Memory AND the Rage 1-click feature, which appears to be an easy-overclock/power limit increase, to match the 3090 at stock. This means stock for stock, the 6900XT probably doesn’t beat the RTX 3090.
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The 6900XT only has 16GB of VRAM, which for gaming is probably fine, but for other workloads, may be a limitation. The larger 24GB frame buffer in the 3090 may propel it ahead in either case than the 6900XT in those applications that require more VRAM.
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The 6900XT is $1000, which is 54% more expensive than the 6800XT. Seems performance-wise, you’re looking at a 15% more uplift over the 6800XT for a lot more, without any additional VRAM or even frequency. It’s just more CUs.
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Since it doesn’t compare as favorably in the productivity feature-list as the 3090, and since it doesn’t perform that much faster than the 3080 in gaming, it seems the 6800XT makes the most sense in the stack.
Both the 6800 and 6800XT appear to scale better at lower resolutions (1440p) than the Ampere counterparts. It also seems that with Super Resolution, it could be that AMD has a more broadly applied “version” of DLSS that can be somewhat comparable. It would seem these two cards are the most likely choices for gamers at this point. If availability is there, and performance reality matches the claims, then these will be hot items for gamers.
Perhaps like Vega and RDNA1, the 6800 with a 6800XT BIOS flash might be the “enthusiast” option. If the number of CUs themselves don’t pull the weight, then having more board power and frequency may make these powered up 6800s pretty compelling.
I have the 8700K and z370 as well! However, I have a 2080 Super. I am still SO SO SO tempted to sell and build from scratch (5900X and 6800 XT).
See for me it’s a lot less muddy.
All my parts get recycled to my other family members.
What would happen for me is I would give my Ryzen 5 1600 System to my sister since she doesn’t even have a gaming PC in her house, replace that (living room PC) with my current system), and build a new one for me to use.
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Rage and SAM supposedly give 2% uplift average. In COD and BF5 the 6900XT beats a 3090 by a healthy margin while in other titles the 3090 wins. I’d say FE vs FE they’re on par.
The rumors say 3090’s highest bin is 2.1Ghz while the highest binned 6900XT is 2.6Ghz. We’ll have to see how these cards perform when AIB liquid models are finally out for each.
The 3090 is a titan card without Titan features (driver capping on tensor performance (https://twitter.com/RyanSmithAT/status/1301996479448457216), problematic NGX etc). Chip vs chip comparison the 3090 is a successor in the line of a 1080TI and 2080 TI. You could use a 1080 TI for compute but the Pascal Titan was significantly better at it. The 6900XT is probably going to be in a similar boat.
I think you mean 6800xt vs 6900xt. Same problem with a 3080 vs 3090. Top end are halo products and pricing makes no sense.
Overall, I’d say this is still a wait and see what happens. Nvidia isn’t going to stand still and AIBs aren’t going to under-clock their cards like AMD is doing. The fight hasn’t even started yet.
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Still, seems they had to enable it for those few benchmarks so that they would win in more of the games that they would have been slightly behind if they didn’t. The rumors seem to indicate a lot - we were hearing 2.5ghz clocks on these cards as a standard for the rumors, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. Tech Jesus also seems to think the overclocking headroom on these cards is likely limited.
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But either way, people who care about the maximum performance and willing to pay for it will want the best features and the best of everything - at this point the 3090 not only has more VRAM, but it also likely has better implementation of real time ray tracing, and DLSS. When we start looking at higher resolution gaming, for those willing to pay for it, the extra VRAM might be something those high-resolution/ultrawide types will push them towards.
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Yes, that was a typo (fixed). I’ll agree here. It’s the people who want the best and willing to pay for the best, but see above - It seems from even the rumors that the RDNA2 chips won’t be as strong in Ray Tracing, and also lack DLSS. So for those looking to spend a lot - they’ll want all the extras they can get and a this point the ball is still in Nvidia’s court for that.
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Honestly, it feels too close to call between the 3090 vs 6900XT gaming at this point without seeing them both in action. I’m fully expecting RDNA2 driver teething problems since it’s the 1st full new arch AMD has created in almost a decade.
Latest leaks has the 3090 upwards of 37% faster than one of the RNDA2 cards in hybrid raytracing/rasterization perf. We just don’t know which Radeon yet.
DLSS I’m going to hold reservations until I see what AMD provides. We already know CAS and DLSS both have their plus and minuses. If AMD works on all games without dev work then it’s a huge win. If not then it’s just another CAS/DLSS tool in the toolkit.
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I’m just excited to have something to talk about and look forward to again.
So much of the past few years has been “look another 1080 ti” and “look another AMD GPU that can’t compete” that it’s pretty exciting.
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Definitely, I hope new models come out sooner rather than later.
12GB 3090 speed card, I’d be all over it.
2.6Ghz 6900XT, I’d take that too.
Two space heaters in my room 
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I am aiming to move the Vega 64 to my son’s PC now that I think on it.
It’s loud AF since it’s a blower design, and in order to keep it adequately cooled it needs the high fan curve.
It’s in my wife’s PC, which sits about 4 feet away from me, and my goodness it’s loud.
My own 5700 XT is a RAW II from XFX…also loud but not nearly as bad as the reference Vega.
Maybe swap my 5700XT into her system, since she only plays 1080p it should still last quite a while, and then get myself a 6800XT.
Make my son deal with the blower vega card.
Shut the door son.
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