all the of stuff in the new zone is NEVER where it’s marked on the map. it’s so hard to find the entrance to the super secret cave to get to the boss that by the time I’ve googled where to go the boss is gone. I find searching for a cave entrance extremely un-fun.
Can’t you put the boss markers on the cave entrance until I’ve entered the cave then move it to his exact location?
Think of it as a puzzle to solve. Good hunting sir.
i keep reading that, if you mouse over or click the rare icon on your map, the entrance will glow blue. that doesn’t happen for me. i don’t know why. so, i’m with you. i spend more time trying to find the stupid entrances than fighting rares, if i can get there in time to do any fighting.
I demand flight paths that take me directly to where the rares spawn!
Forget about the rares. Back in my day, we had to look up all quests on Thottbot or WOWhead just to figure out where we needed to go. You guys are used to having it easy.
Now get off my lawn! 
The zone is small, just learn it.
It is a game. The player has to figure it out. These rares are few. You can memorize which of them is on top of the cave and which ones are inside the cave. I also marked in my memory which part of the water I would dive in to get into the cave when the map shows a Rare in the waters.
I love it when people dived thru the cave when the Rare dragon is on the top tower. ROFL. I could fail one time but it wont outsmart me the next time.
I think it kind of becomes second nature, after the last 3 expects you sorta learn to expect where things hide based on the flow. Imo anyways.
That’s unreasonable. Knowing where to find the cave entrance IS reasonable though.
It’s called exploring. The first day there I didn’t know where anything was. Now I know where everything is. You have lots of time to familiarize yourself with the layout. I have faith you’ll eventually get it.
And allakhazam!!
Oh man. I forgot that site existed. Used it for EQ.
Nah, OP is right on this.
The zone itself might be fine, but the in game map is severely underwhelming. In almost all of the recent maps, they include cave entrances on the map so you can sort of get an understanding of where they are.
The map here is pretty barren of anything of importance. ou just have mountain. So you either have to spend hours memorizing the place, or have an external site/map. It’s bad game design for those of us who don’t have the time and are casual enough that we can’t memorize an in game zone.
So far, because of the really poor mapping and how hard they have intentionally made entrances hard to find, Forbidden Reach is like a top 5 worst experiences for me so far from a zone perspective. Giving me serious Nazjatar / Maw / Korthia vibes.
the thing is, this isn’t a major patch / zone content update. so at least running through it is optional and just a good catchup for rep.
You don’t like exploring and adventuring? Sorry everything isn’t laid out in a straight line so you can check off your annoying daily chores for your 50 characters.
That’s an addon feature - HandyNotes, I think - not something that is built into the in-game map.
My handynotes doesn’t seem to be update yet with cave entrances and paths like that. Going to likely just wait until they update before I really dive into this zone.
as is, by the time I figure out where anything is, they’re dead
There is exploring and then there is watching a mob die and disappear off the map 8 times in a row because the entrance to the cave is 500 yards away from the marker on the map and its buried behind some trees you cant see unless you land and scout every square inch of the island and take notes as you go.
I mean one of the cave entrances is underwater miles away from the boss with absolutely nothing to indicate this is the case for crying out loud.
Exploring is fun, pathing back and forwards in a grid to map out every tiny detail as its the only way to find an entrance is not.
Flying to a point on the map and realising the boss is underground and circling the mountain over and over diving in every gap and crevice for a way in but not finding it because its half the island away is not fun.
There’s a cave in the water that’s super annoying. On my pally tank trying to swim takes like three times as long due to my armor weighing me down.
We had one rare. His name, was time lost proto drake. Good luck on that farm.
I swear I only farm rares if something actually amazing drops. Like I dunno, a toy. A pet or a mount maybe. Everything else isn’t worth it.
TLPD is like the original rare.
That’s what addon Handynotes is for. Put stuff on map that the default UI doesn’t.