I just came back to the game and it seems every guild has 500+ members and are just a cesspool of random people.
There seems to be 0 camaraderie, 500 people can’t feel like a sold guild of 20-30 right? A guild where you know everyone and actually form friendships etc.
I’m hesitant to join any of these, because I know that it won’t be what I’m looking for…
Is the whole, actually being a guild and chatting/making friends with a dozen odd people off meta? Is it all about just stacking your guild with as many alts as you can now?
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500 people might be a guild of 30, if they have an average of 16/17 alts in the guild 
But you seem to know what you want which is good. Don’t join something that seems wrong for you.
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This is kinda rare anymore. A guild is just something a tag for many players now. Group Finder being as good as it is, and the tools to make pug groups better. Guilds are very niche for most people. You don’t need to bound with anyone or be friends to get the best stuff in wow.
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There are a lot of guilds that juat spam invite everyone, for varied reasons, usually not so great for the invitee.
But there are also a lot of guilds that are more like what you’re looking for. The issue is finding them.
And with the complete randomness of PuG groups now, and never really grouping with the same people, there’s really not any of the old “hey, this person has ran several things with us, and they seem cool and fun to hang with, so let’s invite them to guild” of the past.
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My guild has nearly 600 “Members” but it’s more like we’ve got a solid 40 - 50 people with alts in guild. We’re currently on the Pre-patch break until we get to the expansion then we’ll be back going at it for TWW for Raiding and Mythic+. We’re adults that understand things in life come first over the game, so all time is respected between everyone. You put your best foot forward in all things you participate in and take responsibility for things you can control, understanding that mistakes happen.
It really depends on what you are looking for, when it comes to a guild.
The smaller knit guilds are imho, based on two general concepts. In my limited experience.
A small group of friends, not actively looking for more, but if something happens, great.
A guild specifically set up for raiding/pve/m+. Some specific form of content. These may actively seek out active players to ensure they have a certain amount. But may lag in doing so when numbers are adequate.
I noticed this week that the invite whisper season seems to have started.
I used to feel compelled to reply with a little “thank you but I am not currently looking for a guild” to each of them even though they are probably just being spammed out by some add-on, but lately I’ve started just ignoring them.
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Depends, ya want an RP guild? I can gives ya an RP guild on MG. Just gotta follow a few basic rules, nothing major.
That would explain why some people ignore when I politely whisper them, still kinda rude though, but hey, not exactly the kinda people you’d really want anyways. How many guilds do you think personally has the GM out and about and whispering them politely to join?
go to kel thuzad warmode goldshire if you want friends to do all content with better than a guild these days
I think this is what I’m after
Chill on discord, raid once or twice a week, get to know some people and enjoy the game
For me the game is dreadfully boring without people to share the experience with
All the gear and all the ratings and parses or whatever are meaningless unless you can celebrate your successes and your guild mates successes together
Fingers crossed I find something like this
Logging on and just using the group finder seems so soulless
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You put your best foot forward in all things you participate in and take responsibility for things you can control, understanding that mistakes happen.
This is what I’m looking for. Kind of an in-game family.
Ok here are some tips. Socializing, building relationships and forming groups ain’t easy and it’s not gonna happen in one day. Post on discord channels, forums and in game. Have a plan on what you want to do , raid? Mythic? Be ready to talk to people , join discord with mic and start conversations. Post on discord chat , share a story or anything. If you don’t like what to see move on. People think that human connection gonna happen out of thin air. No sir , it needs grinding like real life
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I’ll pass out in your living room after drinking too much and eating too much turkey while watching the Thanksgiving Superbowl.
The system for finding a guild definitely needs to be updated. I typically suggest using resources outside of the game. Which is stupid. But it can work depending on your goals.
There is a website called Guilds of WoW
It can be helpful because it can help find guilds that are looking to do specific content. And when they raid, etc. Like if you know you are more free on Weds and Thursday, you can sort by those days.
You can also just set up a profile for your character as well, and get responses from others.
For example. You can use the filter to find a guild that just focuses on no more than heroic raiding, raids on thursday nights, starts in the 6pm-9pm time slot, and see themselves as casual.
Ughh, that was an image in my head from a real experience I had with a cousin.
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See? We’re family already 
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Communities were cross-realm and cross-faction.
Now guilds are too, but communities have less features and options than guild.
That depends, is it easier to get along with the people already in your guild, which you already have an in-game connection (through a guild) than meeting random people?
Guilds are no longer 100% required for everything, and people need guilds for guild perks, so yeah they all welcome socials.
Chatting in wow is off-meta, unless you’re talking in the LFG channel.
People do that on discord, or join a discord channel to talk while playing.
You can usually find a good guild at the start of the expansion. Don’t go for the massive ones, as those are usually just set up to have as many people as possible.
The same thing happens in classic as well
My suggestion would be perhaps look through the forum’s guild postings, as you are more likely to find actual raiding/mythic + guilds than the in-game system.
Latest Recruitment/Guild Recruitment topics - World of Warcraft Forums (blizzard.com)
A level 10 character with their profile hidden. Yes, I believe this is Real… /S
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Yeah I hear that, this is the exact thing I have on classic and it honestly is what is keeping me playing.
Various factors make this socialising just not work often, be it differing personalities, lack of matching play time, established cliques and many other things
I know those are barriers that exist. I accept those, not everyone is going to be friends, and that’s fine.
It just seems like maybe what I’m looking for is less common these days, people are just happy logging, doing their own thing on group finder and that’s it.
If that for them, awesome, but for me? Nah, I wanna hang out with the gang, talk some crap, do some content and have fun
Fingers crossed I find somewhere that enables this type of gameplay because I feel like most of these guilds with a billion players ain’t it