Hey y’all, I recently made the decision to formally main my DH from here going into midnight.
I played a few hours last night, and the thing that confuses me the most is Fracture, interestingly enough. I feel like its cooldown is too low to use as it’s intended, while not overcapping fury. So I wanted to make sure I have the right of it.
As I understand it, the basics are:
Press Fracture to keep at least 1 charge off CD without overcapping Fury
Press Soul Cleave to consume souls & burn Fury, and try not to press when there’s no souls to eat(?)
The issue is I end up either not having souls to consume, or risking overcapping fury. Am I wrong that soul cleave should only be pressed when you have souls active?
Additionally, with the CD of Fracture only being ~4 seconds, it feels really difficult to try and weave in our other GCDs like Felblade, Sigils, and Immo Aura. Any help would be appreciated.
I guess my concern stems from the fact that I always feel like I’m overcapping something whether it be Fracture charges, Sigil charges, or Fury. Compared to the other tank I play (Brewmaster), where you want literally nothing to overcap ever, it just feels very weird for now.
I’m not going to let this discourage me, though. It’s just a new feel I have to get used to.
Before I forget, and I understand this isn’t directly related to my original topic, but does Veng usually feel pretty squishy? I was running my first key on this toon (+2 Floodgate), and there were times I’d literally chunk for about 80% of my HP out of nowhere. If we didn’t have the Artifact cloak with the cheat death I feel like I would have died quite a few times. I am always making sure I have a CD active, between Demon Spikes, Sigil of Flame for the debuff, or Meta for big packs, then throw in Brand for ST (love how it lines up for a lot of tank busters). It just feels strange because I feel like a wet paper towel outside of Meta, but like an unbreakable wall while in it. Is this the intended feel? Or am I missing something about or mitigation?
ya vdh is weird like that, you can def overcapp on fracture charges, fury overcap is mitigatable but doesnt really matter in keys if you play either hero tree. dont overcap on sigils tho, thats your hardest hitting thing and should be used on cd
thats t he mentality you should foster. if your already experienced with tanking then basically your half way there. keep at it and remember you learn more from failure than success. if you want, if you have a log i can review it for you, or i can pull one from your warcraft logs. up to you
i mean vdh is a dps with threat, you cant hold your cds for anything. you have to go into pulls with something like spikes or feldev, or brand. please dont save brand for st, brand spread is probably the best defensive we have in aoe.
while yes your hp yoyos a tad bit, keep in mind we’re more of a leech tank. the more damage you the more healing you do, better rotational mastery means souls and damage which means more healing.
also youre always going to overcap on souls in keys. so dont bother with that.
I can definitely log some keys tonight, I typically try to just keep live logs running under Private but I’ve been having a hard time getting it to work consistently, weirdly enough.
i think one of the classcords have a pin that tells ya how to log
if this is the tank your having trouble with, i can check out warcraft logs to see if you have any logs. like heck raid logs would help find your issue too since frankly the concept of vdh between raid and key isnt to different
I am still so new to VDH I have no current logs. I only hit 80 on the class last Tuesday, and my only other 80 I only hit level cap on 2 weeks before that.
I plan on logging my LFR runs next week & the keys I do tonight, just to establish a baseline.
i mean lfr or normal is probably a good place to start, then keys. any log you can get then comeb ack here or head to the felhammer discord after you read a guide for a log review. you’ll probably find me there more often than here “felbourrage”
I played quite a bit a few years ago, did AotC runs for Legion & BFA then played FFXIV for a long time where I did their version of high end raiding. Admittedly I’m rusty, but thankfully I’m not having to learn from absolute basics.