Am I alone in thinking Alts *are* the problem?

The complaints about boring quest lines and grinding on your alts seem to look past the fact that you’re finishing things on your main this quickly.

If you have 5 alts maxed with the various professions and the achievements and you’re complaining about doing the same old thing again, isn’t the solution more questing content for your main to do?

Thee complaints about alts assume that alts should have a place in the discussion in the first place. I have alts, but i’ve never expected them to be anything but alts. Content drought seems to be the issue.

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The people that complain about having to do work on their alts are the same people that would complain there’s nothing to do if Blizzard reduced the workload.

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I certainly wouldn’t complain about that, and neither would those in my guild who also maintain raid/M+ ready alts to help get things done.

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You say that now, sure.

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Weird how I never said that in any previous expansion where my alts were just as progressed as my main with little effort. But sure, you definitely know better.

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I like alts. I like them because it gives me something to try out when I am tired of my main. The more difficult Blizzard makes it to play my alts the less I play.

I can’t really say much else in that regard. Naturally, that is just my personal preference. Many might disagree but I feel that Blizzard has made too many systems that require alts to take more time than they should to get up to speed.

Bottom line - alts keep me in the game for longer periods as long as the threshold to get them where I want to isn’t too cumbersome or taxing. I don’t know where that “sweet spot” is, but thus far in all of BfA it hasn’t been there.

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Grinding gear for alts has never been a problem, we can do it at our own pace; if the alt isn’t geared we have no one to blame but ourselves.
But essences are too much, most of them are time-gated while others demand a significant time sink (~30 hours for blood of the enemy).

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That’s cute. 4-5 alts lol. Some of us have way more than that. I’m not even getting the cloak on them. Took me all day on main. Would take 2 -2.5 months at that rate. I’m good this expac sucked for me anyway.

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I’ve said that all along and have never complained about having nothing to do. I’ve had and maintained raid ready alts since Burning Crusade. There’s plenty for me to do that keeps me interested outside of tedium.

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There’s a flaw in the logic here. The alts aren’t difficult to play. And if you want “something to try” you’re getting it. What’s difficult to do is get your alt to where your main is.

But if we made it easy, that only makes your main easier too, and it mean you’ll need to go 9 alts out instead of 4. This seems very clear to me, what am I missing?

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This is where people seem to run into issues. They don’t want alts, they want to be able to swap out mains at the drop of a hat. They don’t want to play an MMO, they want to play one of those lobby games where you just change your loadout.

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At a certain point we hit something called Gyminishing Returns, which means you’ve hit the point where you play this game so much, you should probably go to the gym for some perspective.

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I mean…5 toons doing heroic raid and M+…2 of those toons dabbling in Mythic raiding…and yes I’m one of those people who are complaining about of a lack of skip.

This is false. The people who complain about having nothing to do are the ones who play no alts. They run out of stuff to do after doing something once and then log off and go play another game.

People who play alts always have something to do.

But clearly you have no idea and have never played alts.

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I have many for many different reasons. Including multibox farming. I won’t be a jerk and criticize your spelling error. I know what you meant.

This is the most divorced-from-reality take I’ve seen in awhile. The people with the most to do complaining the most about nothing to do. Jee-zus.

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Classes are shallow in BFA so people are using alts to fill in the gaps. Can’t play any class for any length of time because of BFA class design.

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OP you’re not alone… People will embrace Pathfinder but complain about content? smdh…

This sounds like a lot of “my opinion is better than your opinion”.

Variety is the spice of life is it not? There are plenty of MMOs that have more account wide systems than WoW and it doesn’t seem to ruin their ability to maintain content releases or “things to do” as it were. If your game’s only leg to stand on is that you need to be doing weeks of dailies per character or else you’d have nothing to do that says more about the game.

The issue with BFA is that a lot of people no longer see the time commitment per character resulting in something they would call enjoyable to invest in more characters. You just have so much busywork to do daily that may be content you really don’t care for, but nevertheless you have to do to unlock things.

I’d argue Blizzard should be more alt friendly because it makes people play more if they feel like they can keep multiple characters at a relative power without losing sleep. I’d also argue they feel that too considering how forgiving the cloak is on a weekly schedule and the fact Shadowlands is tied to a weekly schedule.

The biggest issue with alts right now is honestly essences which are a BFA unique feature and the first time something so integral to character power has been locked behind something so trivial as just dailies.

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You are the one who is divorced from reality. Here you are, you have no idea how and why people play alts, and you’re deliberately spreading misinformation because of some weird anti-fun agenda you are obsessed with.

Raiders who have nothing to do log off and come back until their raid is up or the next raid is released. People who have only one character run out of things to do and unsub. People who play alts always have something to do on them. They do achievements, pet battling, try something new, unlike you who can’t wrap your mind around challenging the dominant paradigm.

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