Got 2 Champ pieces of S3 tier, and I can’t equipped them, even being 60 Ilvls higher for both combined, because it’s a DPS loss compared to the S2 tier. Just not very intuitive.
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We have had a world with and without tier sets and a very overwhelming “everyone” prefers having tier sets.
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I like having them. I just don’t like not equipping new gear, thats nearly 700 Ilvl, because they made my new tier so much weaker then the old one. It’s just weird. Just wish they made them a bit more comparable.
Sounds like s2 tier should have been nerfed
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Yeah, this part sucks.
Even if the old tier was strong, this should never happen. The new effect should at worst be marginally worse so that at least the ilvl bump makes it worth equipping without needing to have Myth Track or something.
Ran into this between S1 and S2 on my Shaman. Eventually just swapped when the difference was supposedly ~1% (ST) because I’d rather have the new gear on.
Honestly, there should be a better answer for transition. Maybe something like this:
- If you have 3 pieces of S2 and 1 piece of S3, it counts as 4p S2, but no S3
- If you have 3 pieces of S2 and 2p of S3, or vice versa, keep as is.
- If you have 2 pieces of each, treat it as it is.
- If you have 3 pieces of S3 and 1p of S2, treat as if you had 2p of each.
Problem with that, ofc, is that ilvl comes into play, so S3 would need to be significantly stronger than S2.
Or set it to legacy since S2 is over. It activates in undermine but thats it or something.
Nerfing is probably the simplest though.
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I feel like catalyst charges shouldn’t be a thing and transforming a item should be free.
Solves a host of issues. Including people who want to push both pve and pvp.
With tier effectively being a seasonal talent row in terms of power it always feels dumb to try and play for scarcity.
It doesn’t even affect the race to world first anymore with how common split runs are.
If blizz didn’t just make my tier bonus worse each season, it’d be nice
Don’t worry the older tier will be nerfed shortly if that’s actually true. If you’re simming it and not testing it yourself make sure your sim has the right new patch values (IE divine hammers 40% time reduction for ret).
I’d have to run sims again but prior to the small nerf this week the Affliction S2 bonuses were actually competing with myth track S3 tier.
They definitely needed to nuke the S2 bonuses for Affliction but they barely touched it for some reason.
“Everyone” is wrong, but they’re welcome to their opinions on the matter.
At least the catalyst helps mitigate these issues to a degree, but not being able to equip 1-3 new pieces of gear until you’ve acquired a full set week 2-4 is most definitely unintuitive.
easy fix desactivate old tiers on next seasons instances , u can keep them on the world /delves
but ppl will scream bloody murder
Also bad because this game is more RNG reward rather than efforts so some people get 0 upgrades for a while compared to others (My main this season can’t seem to get anything but belts, cloaks and gloves. The issue? I have those already, and thus I am now behind other players who just got lucky and got different gear slots for their drops)
Is it fun to punish players because game systems have denied upgrades? O.o
Well yea, for example if you get nothing but cloaks and belts the first two week AND your old gear is deactivated, you are rather… screwed compared to the majority. If loot wasnt RNG then your point would make more sense, but people love the gambling aspect too much 
Don’t worry, they will nerf of completely disable the s2 tier sets shortly to make the choice easier for you, lol.
60 ilvls? I’m guessing you don’t do keys.
You would be a liability with stamina that low. Also I dunno about you, but it’s a bit trickier to do DPS when I get hit for 50% of my HP every 5 seconds.
True but they screwed it up royally. They could have easily kept azurite armor enhancements with more class themed armor.
The biggest gripe was they made every armor set the same for all classes.
If they would have made the sets class oriented with the azerite traits it wouldn’t have been fine.
Any percieved punishment is on you, take the game less seriously and you might have more fun. 