I was there from the beginning and I recall tons of complaints to the point where on our server Horde premades all but boycotted AV because it was pointless.
The GM response to the Horde shouldâve been, âget good.â
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That just proves you have no idea what it was like.
We didnât lose because we were bad. We lost because after 30 hours of playing, Alliance had endless queues and Horde ran out of players. Those long matches werenât won through skill, they were lost through simple real life attrition. People quit queuing, and when one side has 3x as many people in the queue, youâre battling a fresh 40 with 18 hours long tired players on the towers in your base.
I was Horde strictly until the Ulduar patch. I know exactly what it was like. Frankly thereâs nothing wrong with that. If thereâs a population balancing issue that is up to Blizzard and the community at large to fix. Thatâs not something intrinsically wrong with the battleground itself; if you donât have the time to commit to an AV in my opinion you shouldnât join it. That can be said about a lot of things.
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And yet, the response from a large part of the player base was âFix this because weâre sick of AVâ. They didnât change AV on a whim.
If youâre sick of AV, how about donât queue and let the people who enjoy it enjoy it?
People whining for QoL got us to the horrible retail experience we now have - and people like me who said suck it up were right. Subscriber count has never been lower.
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Uh. Thatâs what happened. Everyone stopped queuing on the weaker faction, and the games all ran down. People complained on both sides. One that it was unwinnable, the other that no-one would fight them.
Congratulations for again showing a distinct lack of being there.
Youâre pretending all the servers were the same; I did not have your experience in this regard.
No, Iâm remembering what the community was like both on the forums and in game. Yes, some servers were relatively even and didnât have the issue. They were the minority. Also if you were there, why donât you have a title?
Implying I still have the same account I did when I was like; 10.
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So youâre implying that you have a clear recollection of the community dynamics⌠from when you were 10.
Considering pretty much all I did was WoW, yeah. Yeah I do.
Itâs not my fault your serverâs population was imbalanced.
I have a clear recollection of MalGanis as it was when I was 35 and on the horde side.
Itâs fun watching people claim that queues were too long, but that also the BG was too long.
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I never claimed the queue was too long⌠on one side. Thatâs the point of AV on its launch. One side had a long long queue and the other side had almost zero queue, because of the faction imbalance.
I have often said that faction imbalance is what needs to be fixed/dealt with at launch of the game, either by faction balance queues or otherwise. The BG was not the issue in and of itself.
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Bump to refresh desire for early AV. Much more entertaining battles.
But unless you enforce faction Balance, then CRBGs are required.
With 20/20 hindsight, AV 1.5 with CRBGs might have worked for the queue, but CRBGs destroyed the server cross-faction community. Giveth with one hand and take away with the other.
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Nah⌠if I want to fight NPCâs there are a number of dungeons and raids that are already primarily focused on that.
I donât see why we canât get a rotation of old AV every so often just to experience it. No reason it has to remain static indefinitely.
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If Blizzard doesnât have a copy of old AV available, which I believe they donât, then there is no reason to ask for it. They canât just re-code it and remake it from scratch; it wouldnât be authentic.
Stop asking for a private server experience from Blizzard.