As the ancient saying goes, “Pics or it didn’t happen!”
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Horde always used discord in av which is pretty much what most alliance premades were.
Are you being honest with yourself with that argument? There were some discords Horde used to just give the pugs voice-coms…but that is nothing at all like the mass queue-dropping Alliance were doing to force a full team of people they wanted into the same game.
Idk man. I did pretty well myself in a private premade group. Maybe 70-80% wins or better, I didn’t track each one so hard to say for sure.
But I have a friend that was grinding r14 in a T1 private premade and at one point he showed me a screenshot with his win rate at 256 out of 257 AVs.
Yeah the typical public premade groups weren’t 100%, but many of the more private premades were.
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Yes, we’re all brain dead morons for not knowing something that was actually impossible to know at launch.
You’re a ****ing genius.
People are arguing from their own point of view. It may not be a lie that his personal win-rate in a low-tier premade was roughly 50%…but he is trying to extrapolate that to the Horde and to both Alliance top-tier premades and Alliance pugs.
It is just unfortunate that the truth you explained to that particular guy several times by now…he either understands it and keeps on parroting the argument, or he doesn’t understand that different people have different experiences.
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Horde more desired by streamers? Let’s look at popular wow streamers:
Esfand - Alliance
Monkeynews - Alliance
Staysafe - Alliance
Joeker - Alliance
Athene - Alliance
Anniefuchisa - Alliance
Oldman - Alliance
I think tribe went ally, but I can’t remember. But that is A LOT of really mega popular streamers.
well, queuing workaround worked perfectly fine.
The exploit is what happens to an AV match that not enough “premades” get into the same BG, so they abandon it and leave a dead AV.
you really don’t understand the meaning of word “exploit”, do you?
And horde mages have to change how they play against gnomes. And dwarves are immune to blind.
OP is wrong. No one can pre-made AV any more. All pre-made discord servers are dead. What’s happening is Horde are realizing how little return for their time they get from AV and moving on. I see a ton of low lvl Horde in AVs now. And less afk bots in Ally side since the supposed bans.
The Zugs aren’t even getting enough 60 mages to AOE SHGY until it falls now. It must be super frustrating to wait an hour to pop and then lose from your ladies tee.
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https://wow.gamepedia.com/Exploit
According to Blizzard, an exploit is doing something unintended to gain an advantage over another.
I don’t think anyone can argue with a straight face that the methods used to form cross-server premades was an intended use of the queuing system.
I don’t see how you can call it anything but an exploit.
Perhaps, but both sides could do it.
Not the same.
You’re the one throwing a fit in an OCE created thread. Maybe take your own advice.
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/640810811245330442/681972300274204739/unknown.png
Could be. But if a group of 5 was able to wrangle 35 others that many times in a row, AND bang out a 5 minute win in AV? I’d be super impressed.
5 minute wins in AV require a level of coordination practically impossible in a pug, especially considering based on the honor gained that match, they hit every single LT/Cmd on the way down to Drek, perfectly within the 5 minute window.
Given the Horde’s penchant to stop and fight midfield, 5 minute, full honor wins like that are only possible if the Alliance group not only pushed Drek immediately, but also turned and wiped the Horde when engaged.
To do both, almost assuredly requires voice comms to coordinate. This screenshot was taken yesterday, per the date stamps. Cheers.
You are dang right we figured it out… Now quit crying like a baby because even with premades we are only getting 50 percent winrate, so if you arent ok with those odds then I implore you. Go back to ree-tail. Just because you are ACTUALLY given a fair fight, you can no longer handle your crushing inferiority complex and feel the need to whine like every other horde pre the ‘fix’.
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Well alliance are just bad at pvp, we all know that. There will never be a fair fight, it’s like pros vs amateurs.
Improved gnome intelligence > zug brain
Proof? Because before Blizzard broke the way to tell populations, Horde outnumbered Alliance. So what you’re saying is nonsense.
The servers aren’t the same either to there are thousands more Horde on PvP servers and queuing up for PvP. Frankly I don’t know why Blizzard doesn’t release the numbers.