5 vs 35-40. You guys are really nitpicking but yes. You can join as a group of 5 but you aren’t allowed/meant to join as a larger group.
OCE ali have figured out how to queue with a full team.
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For arguments sake, queueing as a group of 5 in a 40 vs 40 bg is not a premade lol. Not even remotely the same as having 30+.
That’s the equivalent of going into wsg or ab in a group of 2 and saying it’s a premade lol.
oh dont i feel silly i forgot to change my forum character… i play alliance on classic and kinda regret it now getting rep/honor in bgs is hard as alliance horde seem more cordinated
THat sounds like fun and AIDS at the same time lol
I wanted to be horde but noo my friends were like BUT ally is so much better at PVE i dont give a flying HOOT for pve lol but here i am Stuck 
I’m not exactly sure what constitutes as “pre-made”, since it’s fairly subjective. Had someone claim five people as a “pre-made”, once:
How do you know they were a premade and not just a group of 5 that told the masses where to go while executing all the clutch plays amongst themselves???
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Till i see proff of this im pretty sure Blizz will be the same way with out Proff not real just here say 
some did get stopped, they got left behind.
kind of funny, kind of sad, cause the guy is yelling at the raid Dont stop, if you fall behind you die.
Does not seem a fun way to play really, but what do i know?
As the ancient saying goes, “Pics or it didn’t happen!”
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Horde always used discord in av which is pretty much what most alliance premades were.
Are you being honest with yourself with that argument? There were some discords Horde used to just give the pugs voice-coms…but that is nothing at all like the mass queue-dropping Alliance were doing to force a full team of people they wanted into the same game.
Idk man. I did pretty well myself in a private premade group. Maybe 70-80% wins or better, I didn’t track each one so hard to say for sure.
But I have a friend that was grinding r14 in a T1 private premade and at one point he showed me a screenshot with his win rate at 256 out of 257 AVs.
Yeah the typical public premade groups weren’t 100%, but many of the more private premades were.
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Yes, we’re all brain dead morons for not knowing something that was actually impossible to know at launch.
You’re a ****ing genius.
People are arguing from their own point of view. It may not be a lie that his personal win-rate in a low-tier premade was roughly 50%…but he is trying to extrapolate that to the Horde and to both Alliance top-tier premades and Alliance pugs.
It is just unfortunate that the truth you explained to that particular guy several times by now…he either understands it and keeps on parroting the argument, or he doesn’t understand that different people have different experiences.
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Horde more desired by streamers? Let’s look at popular wow streamers:
Esfand - Alliance
Monkeynews - Alliance
Staysafe - Alliance
Joeker - Alliance
Athene - Alliance
Anniefuchisa - Alliance
Oldman - Alliance
I think tribe went ally, but I can’t remember. But that is A LOT of really mega popular streamers.
well, queuing workaround worked perfectly fine.
The exploit is what happens to an AV match that not enough “premades” get into the same BG, so they abandon it and leave a dead AV.
you really don’t understand the meaning of word “exploit”, do you?
And horde mages have to change how they play against gnomes. And dwarves are immune to blind.